Re: Best Editor

2006-08-25 Thread crystalattice
JAG CHAN wrote: > Friends, I am trying to learn Python. > It will be of great help to me if you let me know which one would be best > editor for learning Python. > Plese note that I would like to have multiplatform editor which will be > useful for both LInux and Windows XP. > Thanks. My choice i

Re: Best Editor

2006-08-25 Thread mystilleef
I recommend Scribes on Linux. It's simple, fast and powerful. Website: http://scribes.sf.net/ Flash Demo: http://scribes.sf.net/snippets.htm GIF Demo: http://www.minds.may.ie/~dez/images/blog/scribes.html JAG CHAN wrote: > Friends, I am trying to learn Python. > It will be of great help to me if

Re: Best Editor

2006-08-24 Thread assiss
some wxPy IDEs maybe better. > Friends, I am trying to learn Python. > It will be of great help to me if you let me know which one would be best > editor for learning Python. > Plese note that I would like to have multiplatform editor which will be > useful for both LInux and Windows XP. > Thank

Re: Best Editor

2006-08-24 Thread abisen
Wow I like the sound of "Learning a highly portable, industrial-strength program like Vim or emacs is something I highly recommend". I use Aquamacs (it's emacs with Mac OS-X Interface) and emacs on other platform. It works great for me. Neil Cerutti wrote: > On 2006-08-24, JAG CHAN <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Best Editor

2006-08-24 Thread JAG CHAN
Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Start with IDLE, which will likely be available everywhere you > use Python. The full instructions for using IDLE take up about > two pages of text, which means it's lightweight, and it comes > preconfigured with good Python int

RE: Best Editor

2006-08-24 Thread Caolan
Title: Re: Best Editor I like ActiveState's KOMODO editor. It is multilanguage compiler editor. Its not free but it is inexpensive for what it does, IMO. I believe they have a 30day free trial and a version for both platforms you mentioned.   -Caolan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on b

Re: Best Editor

2006-08-24 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2006-08-24, JAG CHAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friends, I am trying to learn Python. It will be of great help > to me if you let me know which one would be best editor for > learning Python. Plese note that I would like to have > multiplatform editor which will be useful for both LInux and >

Re: Best Editor

2006-08-24 Thread Michiel Sikma
I personally use Eclipse with PyDev. It is a cross-platform solution because Eclipse is made with Java. http://www.eclipse.org/ http://pydev.sourceforge.net/ Michiel Op 24-aug-2006, om 13:29 heeft JAG CHAN het volgende geschreven: > Friends, I am trying to learn Python. > It will be of great

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-13 Thread Greg Ewing
Mike Meyer wrote: Gee, it's changed from eight to eighty. Probably because eight is a small app by todays standards. Then again, it's not like 80 is large these days. Yeah, it's probably time to upgrade it to 800. :-) -- Greg Ewing, Computer Science Dept, University of Canterbury, Christchur

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-11 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Mike Meyer wrote: >> Yup, that's why emacs stands for Eighty Megabytes And Constantly >> Swapping. ;-) > > Gee, it's changed from eight to eighty. Probably because eight is a > small app by todays standards. Then again, it's not like 80 is large > these days. my emacs starts in no time at all, a

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-11 Thread Mike Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes: >>> >>> Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve. >> >>Hmm. Can I read mail/news/web pages in vim? I can in emacs. > Yup, that's why

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-10 Thread LittleJohn
Mike Meyer wrote: > For quick edits (as either root or me) I use ex. I can't get past ed > not having a prompt. For a Linux gui editor, try NEdit. It's almost identical to the old PFE editor for Windoze and it 'knows' Python. LittleJohn Madison, AL -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-09 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes: >> >> Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve. > >Hmm. Can I read mail/news/web pages in vim? I can in emacs. Yup, that's why emacs stands for Eighty Megabytes And Cons

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-09 Thread Mike Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes: > Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve. Hmm. Can I read mail/news/web pages in vim? I can in emacs. Emacs is a computing environment. I read mail and news in it, so I don't have to worry about learning some applications custom editor (

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howdy, I'm sold on out Leo, http://leo.sf.net, pure Python amazingly easy to learn and powerful. Based on outlining, it provides a powerful and flexible way to manage content. Lots of built in Python code awareness. Extensible with plugins, a very active community is making "I wish my editor cou

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-07 Thread Michael George Lerner
Nicolay A. Vasiliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello! > What do you think all about ActiveState Komodo? Is this specifically to me? I haven't tried it, but I'm tempted. I've recently begun teaching my wife some Python in order to help her write a useful GUI app, and that makes it look particu

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-07 Thread Brian
Yes, we vi/vim users are apparently extraordinary. Is that such a sad thing? ;-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-07 Thread Colin J. Williams
Paul McGuire wrote: SciTE (Scintilla Text Editor) is just right for me too. Low overhead, great just as a Notepad alternative, but with good coding support too. -- Paul Yes, I use SciTE. Syntax marking and multiple buffers. Works with Windows and Linux. Boa-constructor (Scintilla based editor),

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-07 Thread JZ
Dnia 5 Apr 2005 11:22:59 -0700, ChinStrap napisał(a): > Opinions on what the best is? Eclipse + plugins: pydev (http://pydev.sourceforge.net/updates/) and subclipse(http://subclipse.tigris.org/update/). It is free, stable, contains integrated (visual) debugger, code completion, refactoring, PyLin

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-07 Thread Jussi Jumppanen
Joey C. wrote: > When I'm using Windows, I have found the Syn TextEditor The Zeus for Windows programmer's supports Python: http://www.zeusedit.com/lookmain.html Some of the programming specific features include: + Code folding (supports python) + Integrated class browser + Project/wo

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread Joey C.
When I'm using Windows, I have found the Syn TextEditor (http://syn.sourceforge.net) to be quite useful. It has basic syntax highlighting, about enough for me and is quite compatible with FTP and such. It supports Python pretty well. Its user interface is quite easy yet pretty powerful. All in

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread Tim Keating
I bought the Komodo personal edition, and at only $30, it is worth it for the regular expression toolkit alone. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best editor

2005-04-06 Thread James Stroud
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:22 am, ChinStrap wrote: > I keep hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. Both emacs and vi suffer from the fact that they can not be used by ordinary humans. Thus, I recommend using either to impress your friends. James -- http://mail.python.org

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread François Pinard
[John J. Lee] > François Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > > Overall, Vim is also cleaner than Emacs, and this pleases me. > [...] > Is this still true when comparing XEmacs vs. vim? (rather than > GNU Emacs vs. vim) I've always used GNU Emacs, but I have got the > impression that XEmac

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread Ville Vainio
> "jjl" == John J Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Other editors also do stuff Emacs won't do. Code completion is a >> killer feature and emacs sucks at it (yes, w/ Cedet too). jjl> I thought that too, but then I bound dabbrev-expand to F4, jjl> and it seems even better than

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread Ville Vainio
> "caneff" == ChinStrap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: caneff> Anyone want to send me a configuration setup with Python caneff> in mind, and decent colors? http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/ColorTheme -- Ville Vainio http://tinyurl.com/2prnb -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread John J. Lee
Ville Vainio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Miki" == Miki Tebeka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Miki> Emacs (or VIm in my case) takes time to learn. However when > Miki> you start to understand it and know you way around it'll do > Miki> things no other editor will do for you.

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread John J. Lee
"ChinStrap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When not using the interactive prompt, what are you using? I keep > hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. I keep > trying to learn and understand why so many seem to like it because I > can't understand customization even without go

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread John J. Lee
François Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Overall, Vim is also cleaner than Emacs, and this pleases me. [...] Is this still true when comparing XEmacs vs. vim? (rather than GNU Emacs vs. vim) I've always used GNU Emacs, but I have got the impression that XEmacs is (was?) cleaner in some

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread ChinStrap
Well I would be more than willing to learn Emacs if it does all these things you speak of, but really I can't get started because the default scheme is so friggin ugly it isn't funny. Anyone want to send me a configuration setup with Python in mind, and decent colors? -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread François Pinard
[Harry George] > 5. When I do Extreme Programming, the other author(s) tend to be using > emacs, vim, or nedit. [...] Speaking of, when everybody uses Emacs, there is a way for Emacs for allowing many users, each on a different networked machine, all on the very same buffer, simultaneously. This

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread François Pinard
[Mike L.G.] > Emacs may seem awkward at first, but the payoff was amazing for me. Same here. A good editor may tremendously increase your productivity. However, nowadays, good editors abound, to the point that people are not so astonished by them. I've been around for many years, and a good whi

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread bruno modulix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:22 am, ChinStrap wrote: I keep hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. Both emacs and vi suffer from the fact that they can not be used by ordinary humans. My my my... I'm sorry to learn I'm not an ordinary human :( Thus,

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread Ville Vainio
> "Miki" == Miki Tebeka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Miki> Emacs (or VIm in my case) takes time to learn. However when Miki> you start to understand it and know you way around it'll do Miki> things no other editor will do for you. Other editors also do stuff Emacs won't do. Code co

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread Nicolay A. Vasiliev
Hello! What do you think all about ActiveState Komodo? Michael George Lerner wrote: Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve. A system administrator said this to me about unix a long time ago, but it applies equally well to emacs: Emac

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-06 Thread Miki Tebeka
Hello ChinStrap, > When not using the interactive prompt, what are you using? I keep > hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. I keep > trying to learn and understand why so many seem to like it because I > can't understand customization even without going through a hundred >

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Mike L.G.
"ChinStrap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Opinions on what the best is? Or reading I could get to maybe sway me > to Emacs (which has the major advantage of being on everyone's system). When I first started using emacs, progress was slow, but through my persistence, I was able to harness the powe

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Michael George Lerner
Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve. A system administrator said this to me about unix a long time ago, but it applies equally well to emacs: Emacs is a great place to live, but I'd hate to visit. -michael, an (x)emacs user -- htt

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread jstroud
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:22 am, ChinStrap wrote: > I keep hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. Both emacs and vi suffer from the fact that they can not be used by ordinary humans. Thus, I recommend using either to impress your friends. James -- http://mail.python.org/

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Paul McGuire
SciTE (Scintilla Text Editor) is just right for me too. Low overhead, great just as a Notepad alternative, but with good coding support too. -- Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread François Pinard
[Aahz] > Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve. I used Emacs for a long while, and learned it a bit thoroughly. I also learned Vim mor recently, and still have many things to study. See http://pinard.progiciels-bpi.ca/opinions/editors.html for some (incomplete) thought

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Steve Holden
ChinStrap wrote: When not using the interactive prompt, what are you using? I keep hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. I keep trying to learn and understand why so many seem to like it because I can't understand customization even without going through a hundred menus that

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Ivan Van Laningham
Hi All-- Aahz wrote: > > Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve. > I think Aahz has it dead on. Umpty-mumble years ago I spent six weeks learning emacs lisp and customizing emacs until it did EXACTLY what I wanted. It was a great user interface, logical, consistent,

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ChinStrap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >When not using the interactive prompt, what are you using? I keep >hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. I keep >trying to learn and understand why so many seem to like it because I >can't understand cus

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Michael Hoffman
ChinStrap wrote: Opinions on what the best is? The best editor? Ed is the standard text editor. Accept no substitutes. -- Michael Hoffman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Ivan Van Laningham
Hi All-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Windows: textpad > Linux: vim > Windows: gvim Linux: gvim, or vim if I have to. Other unices: gvim, vim, vi SlickEdit doesn't suck. Emacs doesn't suck, either. Metta, Ivan -- Ivan Van Laningham God N Locomotiv

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread elbertlev
Windows: textpad Linux: vim -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread Georg Brandl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ChinStrap wrote: >> When not using the interactive prompt, what are you using? I keep >> hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. I keep >> trying to learn and understand why so many seem to like it because I >> can't understand customization even wit

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread beliavsky
ChinStrap wrote: > When not using the interactive prompt, what are you using? I keep > hearing everyone say Emacs, but I can't understand it at all. I keep > trying to learn and understand why so many seem to like it because I > can't understand customization even without going through a hundred >

Re: Best editor?

2005-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use gedit under gnome, works perfect, it is very easy to use, it has the colours - it also supports other languages. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list