Re: Python development tools

2013-06-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-06-25, MRAB wrote: > Automating tasks, e.g. controlling other applications and stringing > together tasks that you would otherwise be doing by hand. That, IMO, is the definition of "scripting": writing a program to automate a task that would probably be done by hand if you didn't have t

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-24 Thread rusi
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 8:09:19 AM UTC+5:30, MRAB wrote: > And convenience for the programmer. > > """Manipulating long texts using variable-length strings? Yes, I know > it's inefficient, but it's still faster than doing it by hand!""" Well... did not say it because it tends to be emotional

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-24 Thread MRAB
On 25/06/2013 03:24, rusi wrote: On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:41:22 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: rusi writes: > I dont however think that the two philosophies are the same. See > http://www.tcl.tk/doc/scripting.html That essay constrasts “scripting” versus “system programming”, a useful (thou

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-24 Thread rusi
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:41:22 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: > rusi writes: > > I dont however think that the two philosophies are the same. See > > http://www.tcl.tk/doc/scripting.html > > That essay constrasts “scripting” versus “system programming”, a useful > (though terminologically conf

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-24 Thread Reed Xia
在 2013年6月24日星期一UTC+8上午4时40分07秒,cutems93写道: > Hello, > > > > I am new to python development and I want to know what kinds of tools people > use for python development. I went to Python website and found several tools. > > > > 1. Automated Refactoring Tools > > 2. Bug Tracking > > 3. Confi

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-24 Thread Ben Finney
rusi writes: > On Monday, June 24, 2013 11:50:38 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: > > Any time someone has shown me a “Python script”, I don't see how > > it's different from what I'd call a “Python program”. So I just > > mentally replace “scripting with “programming”. > > If you are saying that

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-24 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 24Jun2013 14:28, Grant Edwards wrote: | On 2013-06-23, cutems93 wrote: | > I am new to python development and I want to know what kinds of tools | > people use for python development. | | 1) emacs | 2) Cpython | 3) subversion | 4) http://www.python.org/doc/ | 5) comp.lang.python 1) vi/

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-24 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> Also, I will use GUI interface for Python. What kind of widget > toolkits do you recommend? I know there are GTK+ and Qt. wxPython, PyGUI... Sincerely, Wolfgang -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-06-23, cutems93 wrote: > I am new to python development and I want to know what kinds of tools > people use for python development. 1) emacs 2) Cpython 3) subversion 4) http://www.python.org/doc/ 5) comp.lang.python 99.9% of the programs I write are command-line tools. -- Grant

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread rusi
On Monday, June 24, 2013 11:50:38 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: > rusi writes: > > > I dont know what you mean my 'scripting' > > Any time someone has shown me a “Python script”, I don't see how it's > different from what I'd call a “Python program”. So I just mentally > replace “scripting wit

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread Ben Finney
rusi writes: > I dont know what you mean my 'scripting' Any time someone has shown me a “Python script”, I don't see how it's different from what I'd call a “Python program”. So I just mentally replace “scripting with “programming”. -- \ “Dvorak users of the world flgkd!” —Kirst

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread rusi
On Monday, June 24, 2013 11:04:48 AM UTC+5:30, cutems93 wrote: > Alright. Thanks everyone for your responses. I just want to know what tools > are GENERALLY used by professional developers. I am helping somebody who > wants to know about software that he might use in his project. He does not > k

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread cutems93
On Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:40:07 PM UTC-7, cutems93 wrote: > Hello, > > > > I am new to python development and I want to know what kinds of tools people > use for python development. I went to Python website and found several tools. > > > > 1. Automated Refactoring Tools > > 2. Bug Tracki

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread CM
On Sunday, June 23, 2013 4:40:07 PM UTC-4, cutems93 wrote: > Hello, > > > > I am new to python development and I want to know what kinds of tools people > use for python development. I went to Python website and found [12 different > types of] tools. > What else do I need? Also, which softw

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread rusi
On Monday, June 24, 2013 4:48:35 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: > On 06/23/2013 02:40 PM, cutems93 wrote: > > 1. Automated Refactoring Tools > > I wish. Here's pydev [python ide in eclipse] http://pydev.org/manual_adv_refactoring.html Note Ive never managed to get it running! -- http://ma

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread rusi
On Monday, June 24, 2013 5:58:03 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:40:07 -0700, cutems93 wrote: > > What else do I need? > You don't *need* any of these. You only *need* two things to write Python > code: something to edit text files, and the Python interpreter to che

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/23/2013 02:40 PM, cutems93 wrote: > What else do I need? Also, which software is used in daily base? I > know version control software and bug tracking software are used > almost everyday by developers. Which software is used less often? Phew that's quite a list you have there. Are you comi

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Tim Chase wrote: > I'd wager money that Emacs allows you to do something similar, I'm sure it can. But, the next step in the evolution is: $ emacs `find . -name '*.py' | xargs grep -l my_function_name` -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-06-23 20:22, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > ru...@yahoo.com wrote: >> Other things like finding all uses of various objects/functions >> etc would also be useful now and then but I suppose that is a >> common IDE capability? > > $ find . -name '*.py' | xargs grep my_function_name > >

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread CM
> >> > 1. Automated Refactoring Tools > > >> I wish. > > > Why? I've never seen the appeal of these. I do plenty of refactoring. > > It's unclear to me what assistance an automated tool would provide. > I've often wanted something that would help globally change > things like function

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:40:07 -0700, cutems93 wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to python development and I want to know what kinds of tools > people use for python development. I went to Python website and found > several tools. [snip list of a dozen tools] > What else do I need? You don't *need* an

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread Roy Smith
In article , ru...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Other things like finding all uses of various objects/functions > etc would also be useful now and then but I suppose that is a > common IDE capability? $ find . -name '*.py' | xargs grep my_function_name seems to work for me. I suppose a language-awar

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread rurpy
On 06/23/2013 05:49 PM, Roy Smith wrote:> In article <263da442-0c87-41df-9118-6003c6168...@googlegroups.com>, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: >> > 1. Automated Refactoring Tools >> I wish. > Why? I've never seen the appeal of these. I do plenty of refactoring. > It's unclear to me what assistance an a

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread Roy Smith
In article <263da442-0c87-41df-9118-6003c6168...@googlegroups.com>, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: > > 1. Automated Refactoring Tools > I wish. Why? I've never seen the appeal of these. I do plenty of refactoring. It's unclear to me what assistance an automated tool would provide. > > 2. Bug Track

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread rurpy
On 06/23/2013 02:40 PM, cutems93 wrote: > [...] The Python wiki at http://wiki.python.org/moin/ has a lot of info on most of your subjects. I've included links to there for some of your items below. All your items below also have comercial products available but I an not familiar with any so all

Re: Python development tools

2013-06-23 Thread Giorgos Tzampanakis
On 2013-06-23, cutems93 wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to python development and I want to know what kinds of tools > people use for python development. I went to Python website and found > several tools. > > 1. Automated Refactoring Tools > 2. Bug Tracking > 3. Configuration And BuildTools > 4. D

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-24 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Torsten Bronger a écrit : Hallöchen! Bruno Desthuilliers writes: [...] and it ends multi-line strings at single quotes. it chokes on unbalanced single quotes in triple-single-quoted strings, and on unbalanced double-quotes in triple-double-quoted strings, yes. Given that I never use triple-

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-24 Thread Banibrata Dutta
On 4/24/08, Banibrata Dutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Windows, I use "PyScripter", and it's quite nice and functional. > > On 4/24/08, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hallöchen! > > > > Bruno Desthuilliers writes: > > > > > [...] > > > > > >> and it ends multi-line strings at s

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-24 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Bruno Desthuilliers writes: > [...] > >> and it ends multi-line strings at single quotes. > > it chokes on unbalanced single quotes in triple-single-quoted > strings, and on unbalanced double-quotes in triple-double-quoted > strings, yes. Given that I never use triple-single-quoted str

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-24 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Torsten Bronger a écrit : Hallöchen! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 23 avr, 19:39, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there any completely free developent tools for python scripts like IDLE. I have used IDLE , but I want to try out others also. I saw stuff like PyCrust, but I d

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-23 Thread castironpi
On Apr 23, 3:52 pm, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hall�chen! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > On 23 avr, 19:39, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > >> Are there any completely free developent tools for python scripts > >> like IDLE. I have used IDLE , but I want t

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-23 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On 23 avr, 19:39, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Are there any completely free developent tools for python scripts >> like IDLE. I have used IDLE , but I want to try out others >> also. I saw stuff like PyCrust, but I don't see that it

RE: Python development tools

2008-04-23 Thread Trent Nelson
> Are there any completely free developent tools for python > scripts like IDLE. I have used IDLE , but I want to try out > others also. I saw stuff like PyCrust, but I don't see that > it can run the script as well. > Thanks, Ignoring the 'free' part of your question, I've recently moved from Py

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 23 avr, 19:39, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any completely free developent tools for python scripts like > IDLE. I have used IDLE , but I want to try out others also. I saw > stuff like PyCrust, but I don't see that it can run the script as > well. > Thanks, emacs

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-23 Thread kperkins257
On Apr 23, 1:39 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any completely free developent tools for python scripts like > IDLE. I have used IDLE , but I want to try out others also. I saw > stuff like PyCrust, but I don't see that it can run the script as > well. > Thanks, > > R

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-23 Thread bvidinli
i saw boa constructor to be most close to delphi in python editors.. it is still far away from delphi but, it is closest anyway. 2008/4/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Are there any completely free developent tools for python scripts like > IDLE. I have used IDLE , but I want to try

Re: Python development tools

2008-04-23 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Apr 23, 12:39 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any completely free developent tools for python scripts like > IDLE. I have used IDLE , but I want to try out others also. I saw > stuff like PyCrust, but I don't see that it can run the script as > well. > Thanks, > >