Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 29, 3:15 pm, Aaron Watters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 22, 11:22 pm, SamFeltus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > """Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """ > > > Should have happened years ago. > > It did. Mark Hammond embedded Python under MSIE about > the same time javascript and

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 22, 11:22 pm, SamFeltus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > """Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """ > > Should have happened years ago. It did. Mark Hammond embedded Python under MSIE about the same time javascript and java applets came along (94, maybe?) It didn't fly because of political an

Re: Python web frameworks

Op Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:29:38 -0800, schreef BartlebyScrivener: > I'm just learning Django and feeling my way through all of this server > terminology. Where does Django's memcached feature fit into all of this? > When you all speak of start up costs and memory intensive loading for > each requests

Re: Python web frameworks

I'm just learning Django and feeling my way through all of this server terminology. Where does Django's memcached feature fit into all of this? When you all speak of start up costs and memory intensive loading for each requests, doesn't the caching feature eliminate most of that overhead? http://w

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 21, 10:27 pm, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > On Nov 21, 6:25 am, Bruno Desthuilliers > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> joe jacob a écrit : > >> (snip) > > >>> Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > >>> Django and pylons are the best.

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 23, 4:22 am, SamFeltus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > """Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """ > > Should have happened years ago. Python Internet Environment: PIE. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 22, 11:00 am, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 21, 12:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I would say that that is now debatable. Overall mod_wsgi is probably a > > better package in terms of what it has to offer. Only thing against > > mod_wsgi at thi

Re: Python web frameworks

"""Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. """ Should have happened years ago. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python web frameworks

Perhaps we need a pythonic FRONTEND. If you're meant to be able to run java code in a browser vm; and flash; and javascript...why not a reduced version of python? I'm thinking a sandboxed interpreter, perhaps based on EmbeddedPython, and a restricted set of classes; core logic, string and maths,

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 23, 4:00 am, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 21, 12:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I would say that that is now debatable. Overall mod_wsgi is probably a > > better package in terms of what it has to offer. Only thing against > > mod_wsgi at this

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 20, 7:55 am, "Joe Riopel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 20, 2007 8:46 AM, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. > > Pylons too, it's good for development b

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 21, 12:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would say that that is now debatable. Overall mod_wsgi is probably a > better package in terms of what it has to offer. Only thing against > mod_wsgi at this point is peoples willingness to accept something that > is new in conju

Re: Python web frameworks

Jeff wrote: > On Nov 21, 6:25 am, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> joe jacob a écrit : >> (snip) >> >>> Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that >>> Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the >>> same information that Django is

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 21, 4:42 am, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Django is best among the frameworks so I > downloaded it and I found it very difficult to configure. I referred > the djangobook. It's not a turnkey type thing like WordPress or Joomla. It's a webframework. Also watch versions. The book ex

Re: Python web frameworks + adobe flex

I never used the Django AMF, I use JSON to go between Python and Flex. It works well, but lacks easy 2 way communication of course. Interfacing with Flex is a gaping hole in the Python libraries. Python needs a web framework that embraces Flex from the ground up, HTML being such a limited web disp

RE: Python web frameworks + adobe flex

slight shift of topic here. I'm a newbie at standard web stuff. Mostly java webstart and a little mod_python. I experimented with Adobe Flex and really loved it for doing the front end. The backend needs to provide xml, json or AMF (an adobe proprietary binary format). For prototyping, I was

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 21, 2007 5:42 AM, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the > same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I > downloaded it and I found it

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 21, 6:25 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > joe jacob a écrit : > (snip) > > > Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > > Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the > > same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I > > d

RE: Python web frameworks

-snip-- > > Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the > same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I > downloaded it and I found it very difficult to configure. I referred > the dja

Re: Python web frameworks

joe jacob a écrit : (snip) > Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that > Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the > same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I > downloaded it and I found it very difficult to configure. ???

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 21, 10:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 21, 1:37 pm, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 20, 3:39 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > This only holds if actually hosted on Apache. As Django these days > > > supports

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 21, 1:37 pm, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 20, 3:39 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > This only holds if actually hosted on Apache. As Django these days > > supports WSGI interface there is nothing to stop it being run with > > other hosting solu

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 20, 3:39 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This only holds if actually hosted on Apache. As Django these days > supports WSGI interface there is nothing to stop it being run with > other hosting solutions that support WSGI. So, you could host it under > paster or CherryPy WS

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 21, 2:33 am, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 20, 9:42 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 12/7. Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > > > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. > > > I was rather shocked to learn t

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 20, 10:00 am, Thomas Wittek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff: > > > I don't know much about the others. Turbo gears uses Mochikit, which > > hasn't had a new stable release in some time. I prefer jQuery myself. > > You can use jQuery with TurboGears if you develop custom widgets (I do so)

Re: Python web frameworks

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, joe jacob wrote: > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. Personally I found zope/plone to be very much its own enormously complex world

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 20, 9:42 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 12/7. Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. > > I was rather shocked to learn that django only has this tiny server and does > not come with a stand-a

Re: Python web frameworks

joe jacob a écrit : > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. As far as I'm concerned, the winners are Django and Pylons (my own preference going to Pylons).

Re: Python web frameworks

On 20 Nov, 15:42, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 12/7. Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. > > I was rather shocked to learn that django only has this tiny server and does > not come with a stand-alo

Re: Python web frameworks

Jeff: > I don't know much about the others. Turbo gears uses Mochikit, which > hasn't had a new stable release in some time. I prefer jQuery myself. You can use jQuery with TurboGears if you develop custom widgets (I do so). No problem here. -- Thomas Wittek Web: http://gedankenkonstrukt.de/ J

Re: Python web frameworks

> 12/7. Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. I was rather shocked to learn that django only has this tiny server and does not come with a stand-alone server and is supposed to run as mod_python/cgi-driven app through ap

Re: Python web frameworks

On 20 nov, 07:19, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. I'm making web apps with CherryPy at work and it's quite good.

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 20, 2007 8:46 AM, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have > to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it. Pylons too, it's good for development but using the bundled web server is not recommended for production. --

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 20, 6:19 am, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. I'm looking at django mainly. I hope the veterans jump in wi

Re: Python web frameworks

On Nov 20, 2007 7:19 AM, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python, > spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms > of performance and ease of study. I wouldn't classify mod_python as a web framework: "Mod

Re: Python web frameworks

The only one that I have used extensively is Django, which is very easy to use and quite powerful in the arena for which it was created. It has a powerful admin interface that automatically generates data entry forms for content producers and a decent template system. It has some definite drawback

Re: Python Web Frameworks

Shortash wrote: > Hi Gurus, > > I want to build a Python web app but im not sure which one to go for. I > prefer something like asp.Net , which would allow me to fully seperate > the presentation layer from the logic. Please advise? > > thanks, > > "Shortash' > Hi, Look at

Re: Python Web Frameworks

Shortash a écrit : > Hi Gurus, > > I want to build a Python web app but im not sure which one to go for. I > prefer something like asp.Net , which would allow me to fully seperate > the presentation layer from the logic. Please advise? Django, Turbogears, Pylons(HQ), web.py, etc, etc, etc... Wel

Re: Python Web Frameworks

Shortash, "S" == Shortash wrote: S> I want to build a Python web app but im not sure which one to go for. I S> prefer something like asp.Net , which would allow me to fully seperate S> the presentation layer from the logic. Please advise? Django? http://www.djangoproject.com -- Andrey V K

Re: Python Web Frameworks

Shortash wrote: > Python Web Frameworks weak google skills you have, young friend. http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list