Re: GUI builders considered harmful

2005-06-05 Thread Bruce Stephens
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The first, and most obvious, thing that GUI builders do is force the developer to specify an exact position - if not size - for the graphical elements of the UI. They do? I don't remember them doing that. I just downloaded SpecTcl (a oldish

Re: GUI builders considered harmful

2005-06-05 Thread Mike Meyer
Bruce Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The first, and most obvious, thing that GUI builders do is force the developer to specify an exact position - if not size - for the graphical elements of the UI. They do? I don't remember them doing

Re: GUI builders considered harmful (Was: anygui, anydb, any opinions?)

2005-06-05 Thread Chris Lambacher
I think you missed looking at several GUI builders. I have not used a GUI builder in 5 years that had you nail down positions. Swing(for Java), GTK, Qt, and wxWidgets(to a lesser degree) all use a sizer metaphore. You lay out he sizers and put your widgets in various sizer layouts. This means

Re: GUI builders considered harmful (Was: anygui, anydb, any opinions?)

2005-06-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Chris Lambacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you need to step out of the age of Motif and MFCs and look at what modern toolkits and GUI designers have to offer before you start in on a rant. Yeah, pretty much every fancy web page designer these days uses graphic tools like Dreamweaver or

Re: GUI builders considered harmful (Was: anygui, anydb, any opinions?)

2005-06-05 Thread Neil Hodgson
Mike Meyer: The obvious solution would be for the system to detect all these environmental factors, and scale the applications accordingly. However, things like viewing distance and the quality of my eyesight are hard to detect automatically, and it would be a pain to have to enter all those