Re: Please don't use "setuptools", the "rotten .egg" install system.

2012-01-22 Thread Lele Gaifax
John Nagle writes: > On 1/19/2012 12:56 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote: >> John Nagle writes: >> >>> "egg" files are usually more trouble than they're worth. >> >> I find it really funny you say so, just after another thread where you >> proved yourself unable to come up with a working Python environment

Re: Please don't use "setuptools", the "rotten .egg" install system.

2012-01-20 Thread Raffaele Ricciardi
In order to build and run Mercurial on Linux, I needed Python with docutils. I've just installed Python from source and later setuptools. As a non-Pythonista, my impression has been that the procedure of installing setuptools and then using them is quite straightforward, but it's not advertis

Re: Please don't use "setuptools", the "rotten .egg" install system.

2012-01-20 Thread Michael Torrie
On 01/19/2012 10:05 AM, John Nagle wrote: > I can do it, I just have better things to do than system > administration. The fact that Python doesn't "just work" is > part of why it's losing market share. Yes you keep saying that. Of course you are complaining on the wrong list. You should b

Re: Please don't use "setuptools", the "rotten .egg" install system.

2012-01-19 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 01/19/2012 05:05 PM, John Nagle wrote: I can do it, I just have better things to do than system administration. The fact that Python doesn't "just work" is part of why it's losing market share. Maybe in your home is losing market (if you're so sure post some sources). If it can be

Re: Please don't use "setuptools", the "rotten .egg" install system.

2012-01-19 Thread John Nagle
On 1/19/2012 12:56 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote: John Nagle writes: "egg" files are usually more trouble than they're worth. I find it really funny you say so, just after another thread where you proved yourself unable to come up with a working Python environment lacking an already packaged RPM of

Re: Please don't use "setuptools", the "rotten .egg" install system.

2012-01-19 Thread Lele Gaifax
John Nagle writes: > "egg" files are usually more trouble than they're worth. I find it really funny you say so, just after another thread where you proved yourself unable to come up with a working Python environment lacking an already packaged RPM of version 2.7... I know "egg" are not standar

Re: Please don't use "setuptools", the "rotten .egg" install system.

2012-01-18 Thread Jerry Hill
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM, John Nagle wrote: > Please don't use "setuptools", the so-called "easy" > installation system in your packages. It just makes things > more complicated, adds dependencies, and needs too many weird > options if things aren't exactly where it wants them. Since >

Re: Please don't use "setuptools", the "rotten .egg" install system.

2012-01-18 Thread Rick Johnson
On Jan 18, 12:24 pm, John Nagle wrote: >    Please don't use "setuptools", the so-called "easy" > installation system in your packages.  It just makes things > more complicated, adds dependencies, and needs too many weird > options if things aren't exactly where it wants them.  Since > "setuptools