Le jeudi 1 mai 2014 19:21:14 UTC+2, rand...@fastmail.us a écrit :
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014, at 4:57, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > Python 3:
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> > - It missed the unicode shift.
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> > - Covering the whole unicode range will not make
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> > Python a unicode compliant product.
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> Please c
Le vendredi 2 mai 2014 05:50:40 UTC+2, Michael Torrie a écrit :
> Can't help but feed the troll... forgive me.
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> On 04/28/2014 02:57 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > Python 2.7 + cp1252:
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> > - Solid and coherent system (nothing to do with the Euro).
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> Except that cp1252 is
Can't help but feed the troll... forgive me.
On 04/28/2014 02:57 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Python 2.7 + cp1252:
> - Solid and coherent system (nothing to do with the Euro).
Except that cp1252 is not unicode. Perhaps some subset of unicode can
be encoded into bytes using cp1252. But if it
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014, at 4:57, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Python 3:
> - It missed the unicode shift.
> - Covering the whole unicode range will not make
> Python a unicode compliant product.
Please cite exactly what portion of the unicode standard requires
operations with all characters to be han
Le samedi 26 avril 2014 15:38:29 UTC+2, Ian a écrit :
> On Apr 26, 2014 3:46 AM, "Frank Millman" wrote:
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> > news:03bb12d8-93be-4ef6-94ae-4a02789ae...@googlegroups.com...
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> > > I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a generic te
On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:29:13 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:23:00 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:57:46 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > > On the other hand when/if a keyboard mapping is defined in which the
> > > characters th
Le samedi 26 avril 2014 15:38:29 UTC+2, Ian a écrit :
> On Apr 26, 2014 3:46 AM, "Frank Millman" wrote:
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> > news:03bb12d8-93be-4ef6-94ae-4a02789ae...@googlegroups.com...
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> > > I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a generic te
On Apr 26, 2014 3:46 AM, "Frank Millman" wrote:
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> > I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a generic term) supposed to
> > process text, strings are not working.
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> > In Python 3, that's 100
"Frank Millman" writes:
> wrote […]
> It is quite frustrating when you make these statements without
> explaining what you mean by 'not working'.
Please do not engage “wxjmfauth” on this topic; he is an
amply-demonstrated troll with nothing tangible to back up his incessant
complaints about Un
wrote in message
news:03bb12d8-93be-4ef6-94ae-4a02789ae...@googlegroups.com...
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> I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a generic term) supposed to
> process text, strings are not working.
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> In Python 3, that's 100 %. It is somehow only by chance, apps may
> give the illusion they
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I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a generic term) supposed to
process text, strings are not working.
In Python 3, that's 100 %. It is somehow only by chance, apps may
give the illusion they are properly working.
jmf
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On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:23:00 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:57:46 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On the other hand when/if a keyboard mapping is defined in which the
> > characters that are commonly needed are available, it is reasonable to
> > expect the ∨,∧ t
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:57:46 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On the other hand when/if a keyboard mapping is defined in which the
> characters that are commonly needed are available, it is reasonable to
> expect the ∨,∧ to cost no more than 2 strokes each (ie about as much as
> an 'A'; slightly more t
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:57:46 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> perhaps the following is the most preferred?
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> COMPUTE YEAR MODULO 4 EQUALS 0 AND YEAR MODULO 100 NOT EQUAL TO ZERO OR
> YEAR MODULO 100 EQUAL to 0
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> IOW COBOL is desirable?
If the only choices are COBOL on one hand and the mutant off
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> In such a (default) setup typing a ∧ or ∨ is not possible at all without
> something like a char-picker and at best has an ergonomic cost that is an
> order of magnitude higher than the 'naturally available' characters.
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> On the other hand wh
On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:22:33 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> 25 Unicode characters down, 1114000+ to go :-)
The question would arise if there was some suggestion to add
1114000(+) characters to the syntactic/lexical definition of python.
IOW while its true that unicode is a charac
Devin Jeanpierre writes:
> But yes, typing out the special characters is annoying. I just use
> words.
I use words that describe the meaning, where feasible.
> The only downside to using words is, how do you specify capital
> versus lowercase letters?
Why do you need to, for an identifier? If
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> There's not just the keyboard mapping. There's the mental cost of knowing
> which keyboard mapping you need ("is it Greek, Hebrew, or maths
> symbols?"), the cost of remembering the mapping from the keys you see on
> the keyboard to the ke
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:31:41 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> it's impossible for most people to type (and programming with a palette
>> of arbitrary syntactic tokens isn't my idea of fun)...
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> Where's the suggestion to use a "palette of arbitrary tokens" ?
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> I just tried
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> it's impossible for most people to type (and programming with a palette
>> of arbitrary syntactic tokens isn't my idea of fun)...
>
> Where's the suggestion to use a "palette of arbitrary tokens" ?
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> I just tried a gr
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:01:06 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2014 12:01 AM, "Rustom Mody" wrote:
> > As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
> > written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
> > last couple of weeks:
> > http://blog.languager.org/2014/0
Le mardi 22 avril 2014 14:21:40 UTC+2, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 02:07:58 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
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> > Le mardi 22 avril 2014 08:30:45 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit :
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> >> "Ive reworded it to make it clear that
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 02:07:58 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
> Le mardi 22 avril 2014 08:30:45 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit :
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> @ rusy
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>> "Ive reworded it to make it clear that I am referring to the
> character-sets and not encodings."
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> Very good, excellent, comment. An healthy coding
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:01:06 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2014 12:01 AM, "Rustom Mody" wrote:
> > As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
> > written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
> > last couple of weeks:
> > http://blog.languager.org/2014/0
Le mardi 22 avril 2014 08:30:45 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit :
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@ rusy
> "Ive reworded it to make it clear that I am referring to the
character-sets and not encodings."
Very good, excellent, comment. An healthy coding scheme can only
work properly with a unique characters set and the codin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> So instead of using λ (0x3bb) we should use 𝝀 (0x1d740) or something
> thereabouts like 𝜆
You still have a major problem: How do you type that? It gives you
very little advantage over the word "lambda", it introduces
readability issues, it'
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:41:56 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:57:39 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive written up some
> > unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the last couple of weeks:
> > http://blog.lang
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Ive reworded it to make it clear that I am referring to the character-sets and
> not encodings.
It's still false, and was in Python 2 as well. The only difference on
that front is that, in the absence of an encoding cookie, Python 2
defaults t
On Apr 22, 2014 12:01 AM, "Rustom Mody" wrote:
> As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
> written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
> last couple of weeks:
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> http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html
I'm reminded of this satire:
http://www.ojoh
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:14:17 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 4/21/2014 11:57 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
> > written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
> > last couple of weeks:
> > http://blog.languager.org/201
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:57:39 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive written up some
> unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the last couple of weeks:
>
> http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html
What you are talking about is not ha
On 4/21/2014 11:57 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
last couple of weeks:
http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html
"With python 3 we are at a stage where python programs
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