Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 November 2019 11:27:11 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > The only time I had to do less than "automated" installs was my first > Python -- v1.4 (maybe 1.3) on a Commodore Amiga. > That takes us back up the log quite a ways, but it also puts early python up against Bill Hawes and his

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-21 Thread Göktuğ Kayaalp
On 2019-11-21 10:02 GMT, Nick Sarbicki wrote: >> The simplest thing is to use the 3.8.0 python.org installers. This use >> pip to add anything you consider essential. > > As mentioned previously, you do need to make sure that they tick the box to > add Python to the PATH on windows. It is almost

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-21 Thread Nick Sarbicki
> The simplest thing is to use the 3.8.0 python.org installers. This use > pip to add anything you consider essential. As mentioned previously, you do need to make sure that they tick the box to add Python to the PATH on windows. It is almost guaranteed someone will not do that and will then have

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread MRAB
On 2019-11-20 21:58, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/20/2019 11:09 AM, Göktuğ Kayaalp wrote: The first problem is installation: apart from me, a Debian user, everybody has Windows or Mac laptops, and IDK how you install Python on them. The simplest thing is to use the 3.8.0 python.org installers. T

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
Besides the mistakes in the pdf (random.shuffle) the idea is to get the right environment then py basics then numpy+pandas then viz seaborn or minimal matplotlib Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 00:49 Abdur-R

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/20/2019 11:09 AM, Göktuğ Kayaalp wrote: The first problem is installation: apart from me, a Debian user, everybody has Windows or Mac laptops, and IDK how you install Python on them. The simplest thing is to use the 3.8.0 python.org installers. This use pip to add anything you consider

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Göktuğ Kayaalp
On 2019-11-20 16:03 -05, Andrew Z wrote: > Look into https://repl.it Sadly this apparaently can’t do plots. > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 15:43 Göktuğ Kayaalp wrote: > >> >> Andrew Z wrote: >> > Goktug, >> > Im not clear what is the objective of the lecture? I understand it is >> an >> > intro, b

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Göktuğ Kayaalp
On 2019-11-20 13:29 -07, Akkana Peck wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 4:42 AM Nick Sarbicki >> wrote: >> > RE Conda and distros - I'd forget about them, in my experience you may as >> > well learn to use pip and install what you need that way, in the long term >> >> Ag

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Göktuğ Kayaalp
Chris Angelico wrote: >On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 4:42 AM Nick Sarbicki >wrote: >> RE Conda and distros - I'd forget about them, in my experience you may as >> well learn to use pip and install what you need that way, in the long term >> it is faster and more flexible. Python generally supplies a p

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Andrew Z
Look into https://repl.it On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 15:43 Göktuğ Kayaalp wrote: > > Andrew Z wrote: > > Goktug, > > Im not clear what is the objective of the lecture? I understand it is > an > > intro, but what are you trying to achieve? > > Basically I need to introduce my non-programmer frien

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Göktuğ Kayaalp
Nick Sarbicki wrote: > Hi Goktug, > > Firstly good luck, inspiring a crowd of people who have never learnt to > code (and probably never expected to) to want to code sounds like a > daunting task. > > I think you have broadly the right idea in that you want to spend only a > little bit of time on

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 7:44 AM Göktuğ Kayaalp wrote: > > > Andrew Z wrote: > > Goktug, > > Im not clear what is the objective of the lecture? I understand it is an > > intro, but what are you trying to achieve? > > Basically I need to introduce my non-programmer friends to Python and > show t

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
I have a draft of a concise py book for data people which i am preparing, might be useful to you. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IKLBuJJWQKvcTWu-REsgm-JUGSvytBUu/view?usp=drivesdk Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer http://www.pythonmembers.club | https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius On Wed, 20 No

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Göktuğ Kayaalp
Andrew Z wrote: > Goktug, > Im not clear what is the objective of the lecture? I understand it is an > intro, but what are you trying to achieve? Basically I need to introduce my non-programmer friends to Python and show them that they can easily learn to do their statistics with it, produce

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Akkana Peck
Chris Angelico writes: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 4:42 AM Nick Sarbicki > wrote: > > RE Conda and distros - I'd forget about them, in my experience you may as > > well learn to use pip and install what you need that way, in the long term > > Agreed. More agreement. Someone at the local makerspa

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 4:42 AM Nick Sarbicki wrote: > RE Conda and distros - I'd forget about them, in my experience you may as > well learn to use pip and install what you need that way, in the long term > it is faster and more flexible. Python generally supplies a perfectly good > installer for

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Nick Sarbicki
Hi Goktug, Firstly good luck, inspiring a crowd of people who have never learnt to code (and probably never expected to) to want to code sounds like a daunting task. I think you have broadly the right idea in that you want to spend only a little bit of time on the basic syntax before demoing what

Re: Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Andrew Z
Goktug, Im not clear what is the objective of the lecture? I understand it is an intro, but what are you trying to achieve? I didnt read all the details, but maybe you can look into creating a docker/virtual box image with everything preinstalled. Good luck. On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 11:54 Göktuğ K

Recommendations for intro to python+programming lecture to Humanities MA students

2019-11-20 Thread Göktuğ Kayaalp
Hi all, I am responsible of giving my colleagues in from linguistics MA programme an intro to Python, and programming, with a focus on statistics. It’ll be a single lecture, and I probably won’t be able to do more than give some demos and then some pointers to actually properly learn how to use t