Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-06 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
was about RDBMS integration in Python (hint: SQLObject and SQLAlchemy both start with 'SQL'). ... Of course it's relevant. Of course not. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices for ORM. You may not know it but the R in ORM stands

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-06 Thread lazaridis_com
alex23 wrote: lazaridis_com wrote: The persist case evaluates python persistency systems (or mechanisms), and will show my personal preference: Do you feel that evaluating-for-evaluation's-sake produces a more measured understanding of the value of a product than that taken from its use

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-06 Thread lazaridis_com
since there's a clear indication that the OP question was about RDBMS integration in Python (hint: SQLObject and SQLAlchemy both start with 'SQL'). ... Of course it's relevant. Of course not. You are right. It's not relevant for _you_. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-05 Thread lazaridis_com
was about RDBMS integration in Python (hint: SQLObject and SQLAlchemy both start with 'SQL'). ... Of course it's relevant. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices for ORM. The persist case evaluates python persistency systems (or mechanisms

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-05 Thread alex23
lazaridis_com wrote: The persist case evaluates python persistency systems (or mechanisms), and will show my personal preference: Do you feel that evaluating-for-evaluation's-sake produces a more measured understanding of the value of a product than that taken from its use in, say, actual

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-04 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
: SQLObject and SQLAlchemy both start with 'SQL'). good night. -- bruno desthuilliers python -c print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for p in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.split('@')]) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-01 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Jorge Vargas wrote: On 8/31/06, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any major differences between these two? It seems they can both be used with TurboGears, and SQLAlchemy with Django. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-01 Thread lazaridis_com
John Salerno wrote: Are there any major differences between these two? It seems they can both be used with TurboGears, and SQLAlchemy with Django. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices for ORM. Thanks. You can review the Persit Case,

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-01 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
lazaridis_com wrote: John Salerno wrote: Are there any major differences between these two? It seems they can both be used with TurboGears, and SQLAlchemy with Django. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices for ORM. Thanks. You can

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-09-01 Thread lazaridis_com
Ο/Η Bruno Desthuilliers έγραψε: lazaridis_com wrote: John Salerno wrote: Are there any major differences between these two? It seems they can both be used with TurboGears, and SQLAlchemy with Django. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more

SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread John Salerno
Are there any major differences between these two? It seems they can both be used with TurboGears, and SQLAlchemy with Django. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices for ORM. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread Adam Jones
John Salerno wrote: Are there any major differences between these two? It seems they can both be used with TurboGears, and SQLAlchemy with Django. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices for ORM. Thanks. Currently most of my work is

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread John Salerno
Adam Jones wrote: I think SA's extra flexability is worth the effort. Thanks for the reply. Do you mean in the above quote that SA is a little more complicated than SO? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread metaperl
John Salerno wrote: Are there any major differences between these two? It seems they can both be used with TurboGears, and SQLAlchemy with Django. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices for ORM. I just finished surfing both websites last

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread metaperl
John Salerno wrote: Thanks for the reply. Do you mean in the above quote that SA is a little more complicated than SO? Don't be afraid to download them and try their respective tutorials. Each one would take about an hour and then you'd have a feel for yourself. I agree with adam that

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
John Salerno a écrit : Are there any major differences between these two? Yes. SQLAlchemy is, mainly, a very higher-level DB-API that makes working with a RDBMS almost transparent (no embedded SQL unless you really wants to) without trying to pretend there's no RDBMS nor forcing you into ORM

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread Adam Jones
John Salerno wrote: Adam Jones wrote: I think SA's extra flexability is worth the effort. Thanks for the reply. Do you mean in the above quote that SA is a little more complicated than SO? Yes, it is. To avoid the technical issues involved the complication can be summarized as:

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
I think this post by the author of SQLAlchemy perfectly summarizes the differences between the two ORMs: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.sqlalchemy.user/1072/ -- mvh Björn -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread Jorge Godoy
BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think this post by the author of SQLAlchemy perfectly summarizes the differences between the two ORMs: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.sqlalchemy.user/1072/ And ActiveMapper is working to some extent better than it was by the time of the

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread Jorge Vargas
On 8/31/06, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any major differences between these two? It seems they can both be used with TurboGears, and SQLAlchemy with Django. I'm just wondering what everyone's preference is, and why, and if there are even more choices for ORM. they use two

Re: SQLObject or SQLAlchemy?

2006-08-31 Thread Jorge Godoy
Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for example SA wins at using an existing db but SO wins at not worring about the db structure That's not entirely true. Some things are impossible with SQL Object alone. You have to, at least, make use of sqlbuilder. And these aren't hard things, mind