Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-04 Thread Nicola Musatti
Peter Hansen wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: Life is a process, not a thing -- when a clock runs down and stops ticking, there is no essence of ticking that keeps going, the gears just stop. When I stop walking, there is no spirit of walk that survives me coming to a halt. I just stop

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-04 Thread Piet van Oostrum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (U) wrote: U While preparing a Python411 podcast about classes and OOP, my mind U wondered far afield. I found myself constructing an extended metaphor U or analogy between the way programs are organized and certain U philosophical ideas. So, going where my better angels dare

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-04 Thread Fuzzyman
Our psyche is formed by external forces, and only exists in interaction with them. (Our inner self is not separate from our external influences). As we are part of something bigger than ourselves, the death of our physical body is not an end to the 'psychological' forces that we perceive to be

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-04 Thread Peter Hansen
Nicola Musatti wrote: Yet all these examples appear to me to be better explained as instances of a form of physiological or psichological inertia than as indications of the existence of some form of meta reality. But can you define physiological or psychological inertia in such a way that the

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-03 Thread Tom Anderson
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this sense, we are like the ghost in the machine of a computer system running a computer program, or programs, written in a procedural language and style. Makes sense - i heard that Steve Russell invented continuations after reading the Tibetan

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apart from wishful thinking of course. That's always the major component in any reasoning about the afterlife. Life is a process, not a thing -- when a clock runs down and stops ticking, there is no essence of ticking that keeps going, the gears just stop. When I stop walking, there is no

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-03 Thread Kay Schluehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While preparing a Python411 podcast about classes and OOP, my mind wondered far afield. I found myself constructing an extended metaphor or analogy between the way programs are organized and certain philosophical ideas. So, going where my better angels dare not, here

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-03 Thread Shane Hathaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps this is one reason why programmers are so passionate, and even religious, about their programming tools; because they intuitively sense that we are dealing with ideas that, however crudely, mirror eternal realities of immense significance. While I don't

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-03 Thread Stuart D. Gathman
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:05:04 -0500, Steven D'Aprano wrote: I don't dare ask where your evidence for this hypothesis is, but I will ask what are your reasons for imagining this? What is the chain of thought that leads from: Step 1: We live in a temporal world. to: Step N: Our

Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-02 Thread UrsusMaximus
While preparing a Python411 podcast about classes and OOP, my mind wondered far afield. I found myself constructing an extended metaphor or analogy between the way programs are organized and certain philosophical ideas. So, going where my better angels dare not, here is the forbidden fruit of my

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
There are many ways of going crazy, but the most valuable of them is this one which makes a genius out of an ordinary man. Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While preparing a Python411 podcast about classes and OOP, my mind wondered far afield. I found myself constructing an extended metaphor

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:38:47 -0800, UrsusMaximus wrote: It seems to me that, if anything of a person survives death in any way, it must do so in some way very different from that way in which we exist now. [snip] I don't dare ask where your evidence for this hypothesis is, but I will ask what

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-02 Thread BartlebyScrivener
The highest activities of consciousness have their origins in the physical occurrences of the brain just as the loveliest of melodies are not too sublime to be expressed by notes.--Somerset Maugham -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-02 Thread Neal Becker
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:38:47 -0800, UrsusMaximus wrote: It seems to me that, if anything of a person survives death in any way, it must do so in some way very different from that way in which we exist now. [snip] I don't dare ask where your evidence for this

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Hansen
Steven D'Aprano wrote: Life is a process, not a thing -- when a clock runs down and stops ticking, there is no essence of ticking that keeps going, the gears just stop. When I stop walking, there is no spirit of walk that survives me coming to a halt. I just stop walking. Yet when one listens

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-02 Thread David Trudgett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While preparing a Python411 podcast about classes and OOP, my mind wondered far afield. I found myself constructing an extended metaphor or analogy between the way programs are organized and certain philosophical ideas. So, going where my better angels dare not, here