Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-25 Thread Joachim Durchholz
Wildemar Wildenburger schrieb: > Joachim Durchholz wrote: >> And yes, it sucks in major ways. >> > Oh my God, I don't want to, but I just have to ask: Why? First of all, irregularities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeX#The_typesetting_system: "[...]almost all of TeX's syntactic properties can be c

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-25 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 00:48 +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 12:19 -0400, Lew wrote: > > [something attackish] > > > > Well, you are making a personal attack, it's dangerous. I wish to see > > only discussions about TeX ;; > > > > On a python

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Jürgen Exner wrote: > Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: >> Joachim Durchholz wrote: >>> And yes, it [syntactically] sucks in major ways. >>> >> Oh my God, I don't want to, but I just have to ask: Why? > > Because TeX has nothing to do with either Perl, Python, Lisp, Java, or > functional programming.

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 12:19 -0400, Lew wrote: > [something attackish] > > Well, you are making a personal attack, it's dangerous. I wish to see > only discussions about TeX ;; > On a python group? Also: Lew won't see your post, he's on c.l.java.* /W -- http://mail.pyt

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread J�rgen Exner
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > Joachim Durchholz wrote: >> And yes, it sucks in major ways. >> > Oh my God, I don't want to, but I just have to ask: Why? Because TeX has nothing to do with either Perl, Python, Lisp, Java, or functional programming. jue -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Joachim Durchholz wrote: > And yes, it sucks in major ways. > Oh my God, I don't want to, but I just have to ask: Why? /W -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread J�rgen Exner
Lew wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: >> i have written ... No coherent argument, Actually the modified title is wrong. It should be The Xah Lee pestilence Please see his posting history of off-topic random rambling for details. Oh, and PLEASE +---+ .:\:\:/:/:

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 12:19 -0400, Lew wrote: > Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 4. Inargurated a massive collection of documents that are invalid > >> HTML. (due to the programing moron's ingorance and need to idolize a > >> leader, and TeX's inherent problem of being a typesetting system t

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-24 Thread Michele Dondi
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:07:37 -0400, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Xah Lee wrote: >> i have written ... No coherent argument, I've long killfiled XL to the effect that all of his threads are ignored altogether, since the guy is "nice" enough to only take part to his own rants, but occasionally

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-22 Thread Joachim Durchholz
George Neuner schrieb: >> 5. This is arguable and trivial, but i think TeX judged as a computer >> language in particular its syntax, on esthetical grounds, sucks in >> major ways. > > No one except you thinks TeX is a "computer language". But it is. It's Turing-complete. And yes, it sucks in maj

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-22 Thread David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus)
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.lang.functional.] On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:30:51 -0400, George Neuner wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:50:30 -0700, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >>5. This is arguable and trivial, but i think TeX judged as a computer >>language in particular its synta

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-22 Thread Lew
Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 4. Inargurated a massive collection of documents that are invalid >> HTML. (due to the programing moron's ingorance and need to idolize a >> leader, and TeX's inherent problem of being a typesetting system that >> is unsuitable of representing any structure or

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-22 Thread George Neuner
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:50:30 -0700, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >TeX, in my opinion, has done massive damage to the computing world. > >i have written on this variously in emails. No coherent argument, but >the basic thoughts are here: >http://xahlee.org/cmaci/notation/TeX_pestilence.html

Re: TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-22 Thread Lew
Xah Lee wrote: > i have written ... No coherent argument, -- Lew -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

TeX pestilence (was Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love)

2007-10-22 Thread Xah Lee
TeX, in my opinion, has done massive damage to the computing world. i have written on this variously in emails. No coherent argument, but the basic thoughts are here: http://xahlee.org/cmaci/notation/TeX_pestilence.html it's slightly repeatitous there. But i think i might summarize in gist the fe