Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-26, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>
>> Warning: this is an explicit test to see whether you can sit on your
>> hands and refrain from replying. It's hard to find a thread where you
>> don't make the last comment on every branch you get involved i
On 2007-04-26, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
>>> Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
>>> knowledge they need to put the subject matter to immediate use, and th
Michael Hoffman wrote:
> Neil Cerutti wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is
>>> ...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l |
Neil Cerutti wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>>> tutorial:
>>>
>>> The best way to remember how slices work is
>> ...
>>> +---+---+---+---+---+
>>> | H | e | l | p | A |
>>> +---+---+---+---+-
On 2007-04-25, Ant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>> tutorial:
>>
>> The best way to remember how slices work is
> ...
>> +---+---+---+---+---+
>> | H | e | l | p | A |
>> +
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>>>
>> Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
>> knowledge they need to put the subject matter to immediate use, and that
>> there may well be refinements that are glossed over or c
On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> On 2007-04-25, Ant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to rem
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
> tutorial:
>
> The best way to remember how slices work is
...
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> | H | e | l | p | A |
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> 0 1 2 3 4 5
> -5 -4
On 2007-04-25, Hamilton, William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's how everything I've ever learned has been taught. Start
> with a simple explanation that may not be completely accurate
> but is functional, then fill in the details later when there is
> a context to put them in. The tutorial c
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Wording to that effect makes it more clear that it is a crutch
>> that can be usefull now but that it should be discarded later.
>>
> Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
> knowledge they need to put the subject matter
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-25, Ant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>>> tutorial:
>>>
>>> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
>> ...
>>>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:python-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antoon
Pardon
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:40 AM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: Tutorial creates confusion about slices
>
> On 2007-04-24, Michael B
On 2007-04-25, Ant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>> tutorial:
>>
>> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
> ...
>> +---+---+---+---+---+
>> |
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
> tutorial:
>
> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
...
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> | H | e | l | p | A |
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> 0 1
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Really only one person has argued that the docs do not need to be
>> changed. The other two people seemed to think you were asking for help
>> rather than discussing how to revise the docs. Understandable, sinc
Hi Antoon,
> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
...
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> | H | e | l | p | A |
> +---+---+---+---+---+
> 0 1 2 3 4 5
> -5 -4 -3 -2 -1
>
> This is all very well with a simple slice like:
>
> "HelpA"[2:4]=> "lp
On 2007-04-24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> >
>> >> People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
>> >> continue
On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really only one person has argued that the docs do not need to be
> changed. The other two people seemed to think you were asking for help
> rather than discussing how to revise the docs. Understandable, since
> that's why most people
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> >
> >> People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
> >> continue to later subjects and then come back here to see how things
> >> tie
[Michael Hoffman]
>> Personally, I do not think of slices in the way this tutorial suggests,
>> but I think taking it out without replacement would not help. If you
>> want to add a more accurate replacement, I think that would be better
>> received than just saying that the section should be re
On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>>> Submit a patch if you want it changed. I'm sure your valuable
>>> insights will greatly improve the quality of the python documentation.
>>
>> Fat chance, if they reason like you.
>
> I don't think that Micha
Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Submit a patch if you want it changed. I'm sure your valuable
>> insights will greatly improve the quality of the python documentation.
>
> Fat chance, if they reason like you.
I don't think that Michael Bentley is the documents maintainer. Are you
trying to pick a fi
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
>> continue to later subjects and then come back here to see how things
>> tie together. So the fact that it is onl
On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>>
I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone an
On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone and explain
>>> that there is also a step parameter, chances are he w
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone and explain
>> that there is also a step parameter, chances are he will answer
>> correctly if you ask him, what he thinks the
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-23, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>>> tutorial:
>>>
>>> The best way to remember how slices work is
On 2007-04-23, Hamilton, William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:python-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antoon
> Pardon
>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:38 AM
>> To: python-list@python.
On 2007-04-23, Michael Bentley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>> tutorial:
>>
>> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
>> pointing between characters, wi
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:python-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antoon
Pardon
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:38 AM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Tutorial creates confusion about slices
>
> The following is part of the
On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
> tutorial:
>
> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
> pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first character
> numbered 0. Then the righ
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first character
numbered 0. Then the right edge of the last character of a string of n
characters has in
On 2007-04-23, Rob Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
>> tutorial:
>>
>> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
>> pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first charact
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
> tutorial:
>
> The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
> pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first character
> numbered 0. Then the right edge of the last character o
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