Τη Τετάρτη, 23 Ιανουαρίου 2013 1:55:07 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Michael Torrie
έγραψε:
You refuse to use a database in a way that it was designed to be used.
If you're unwilling to identify a file based on name, path, and
contents, then you're only solution is to use a database to associate
Τη Τρίτη, 22 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:08:57 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Dennis Lee Bieber
έγραψε:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:49:31 -0800 (PST), Ferrous Cranus
nikos.gr...@gmail.com declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:
You are right, it cannot be done.
So i have 2 options
On Jan 23, 7:12 pm, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
They are getting frustrated because they do not want to follow the logic i'am
imposing.
No, it's because you're an obvious troll and you're wasting everyone's
time.
Now be a good lad and sod off.
--
On 23/01/2013 09:37, alex23 wrote:
On Jan 23, 7:12 pm, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
They are getting frustrated because they do not want to follow the logic i'am
imposing.
No, it's because you're an obvious troll and you're wasting everyone's
time.
Now be a good lad and sod
Τη Τετάρτη, 23 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:37:29 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε:
On Jan 23, 7:12 pm, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
They are getting frustrated because they do not want to follow the logic
i'am imposing.
No, it's because you're an obvious troll and you're
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.comwrote:
Τη Τετάρτη, 23 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:37:29 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης alex23
έγραψε:
On Jan 23, 7:12 pm, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
They are getting frustrated because they do not want to follow the
Τη Τετάρτη, 23 Ιανουαρίου 2013 2:03:51 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Joel Goldstick
έγραψε:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Ferrous Cranus nikos...@gmail.com wrote:
Τη Τετάρτη, 23 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:37:29 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε:
On Jan 23, 7:12 pm, Ferrous Cranus
On Jan 23, 8:29 pm, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
1. I'am a troll because i want to generate a solution in a specific way?
No, it's because you have the name behaviour of a known type of
troll:
As has been pointed out:
On 01/23/2013 05:29 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
snip
1. I'am a troll because i want to generate a solution in a specific way?
2. Am' i not wasting my time trying to reply to everybody?
1) your username is obviously a pseudonym, and identified by multiple
websites as a troll. Further, your
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Dave Angel d...@davea.name wrote:
You think it's an accident that md5 size is roughly equivalent to 39 decimal
digits? Or that the ones that haven't been proven insecure are much larger
than that? The sha512 hash is roughly equivalent to 154 decimal digits.
On 01/23/2013 06:25 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Dave Angel d...@davea.name wrote:
You think it's an accident that md5 size is roughly equivalent to 39 decimal
digits? Or that the ones that haven't been proven insecure are much larger
than that? The sha512 hash
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Dave Angel d...@davea.name wrote:
I certainly can't disagree that it's easy to produce a very long hash that
isn't at all secure. But I would disagree that longer hashes
*automatically* reduce chances of collision.
Sure. But by and large, longer hashes give
On 01/23/2013 07:39 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Dave Angel d...@davea.name wrote:
I certainly can't disagree that it's easy to produce a very long hash that
isn't at all secure. But I would disagree that longer hashes
*automatically* reduce chances of collision.
In 5dd4babd-716d-4542-ad36-e6a841b73...@googlegroups.com Ferrous Cranus
nikos.gr...@gmail.com writes:
If that's the case, then I figure you have about 3 choices:
1) use the file path as your key, instead of requiring a number
No, i cannot, because it would mess things at a later time on
On 01/21/2013 08:00 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 2:47:54 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Joel
Goldstick έγραψε:
This is trolling Ferrous. you are a troll. Go away
Just because you cannot answer my question that doesn't make me a
troll you know.
It becomes trolling when
On Jan 22, 10:04 am, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
My family in fact has a literal grandfather's axe (except that I
don't think either of my grandfathers actually owned it, but it's my
Dad's old axe) that has had many new handles and a couple of new
heads.
Ah, that's brilliant, I
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 9:20:15 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico
έγραψε:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
An .html page must retain its database counter value even if its:
(renamed moved contents altered)
Then you either
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
This python script acts upon websites other people use and
every html templates has been written by different methods(notepad++,
dreamweaver, joomla).
Renames and moves are performed, either by shell access or
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:31:24 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico
έγραψε:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
This python script acts upon websites other people use and
every html templates has been written by different
On 21 January 2013 12:06, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:31:24 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico
έγραψε:
Seriously, you're asking for something that's beyond the power of
humans or computers. You want to identify that something's the same
This is trolling Ferrous. you are a troll. Go away
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Oscar Benjamin
oscar.j.benja...@gmail.comwrote:
On 21 January 2013 12:06, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:31:24 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris
Angelico έγραψε:
On Jan 21, 10:39 pm, Oscar Benjamin oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com
wrote:
This is a very old problem (still unsolved I
believe):http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
+1 internets for referencing my most favourite thought experiment
ever :)
--
On Jan 21, 7:19 pm, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Renames and moves are performed, either by shell access or either by cPanel
access by website owners.
These websites owners, are you charging them for this service you
provide?
You seriously need to read up on some fundamentals
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 2:47:54 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Joel Goldstick
έγραψε:
This is trolling Ferrous. you are a troll. Go away
Just because you cannot answer my question that doesn't make me a troll you
know.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 2:56:24 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε:
On Jan 21, 7:19 pm, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Renames and moves are performed, either by shell access or either by
cPanel access by website owners.
These websites owners, are you charging
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 9:20:15 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico
έγραψε:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
An .html page must retain its database counter value even if its:
(renamed moved contents altered)
Then you either
Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com writes:
This python script acts upon websites other people use and every html
templates has been written by different methods(notepad++,
dreamweaver, joomla).
Renames and moves are performed, either by shell access or either by
cPanel access by website
On 01/21/2013 07:06 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
snip
Seriously, you're asking for something that's beyond the power of
humans or computers. You want to identify that something's the same
file, without tracking the change or having any identifiable tag.
That's a fundamentally impossible
On 01/21/2013 01:39 PM, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On 21 January 2013 12:06, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:31:24 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico
έγραψε:
Seriously, you're asking for something that's beyond the power of
humans or computers. You
On Jan 22, 1:03 am, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
ALL, iam asking for is a way to make this work.
No, ALL you are asking is for us to take an _impossible_ situation and
make it magically work for you, without your having to improve your
understanding of the problem or modifying
On Jan 22, 1:07 am, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps we should look into on how's the OS handles the file to get an idea
on how its done?
Who is this we you speak of? You mean you, right?
You do that and get back to us when you believe you've found something
that helps.
--
On 21 January 2013 23:01, Tom P werot...@freent.dd wrote:
On 01/21/2013 01:39 PM, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On 21 January 2013 12:06, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:31:24 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris
Angelico έγραψε:
Seriously, you're asking for
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Oscar Benjamin
oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 January 2013 23:01, Tom P werot...@freent.dd wrote:
On 01/21/2013 01:39 PM, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
This is a very old problem (still unsolved I believe):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
That
On Jan 21, 5:55 pm, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:39 pm, Oscar Benjamin oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com
wrote:
This is a very old problem (still unsolved I
believe):http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
+1 internets for referencing my most favourite thought experiment
Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
No, it is difficult but not impossible.
It just cannot be done by tagging the file by:
1. filename
2. filepath
3. hash (math algorithm producing a string based on the file's contents)
We need another way to identify the file WITHOUT using the above
Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Renames and moves are performed, either by shell access or either by cPanel
access by website owners.
That being said i have no control on HOW and WHEN users alter their html pages.
Right, and that makes it impossible to solve this problem.
Think
On Jan 21, 8:07 pm, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 9:20:15 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico
έγραψε:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com
wrote:
An .html page must retain its database counter value
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:24 PM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
Ive a computer whose OS I wanted to upgrade without disturbing the
existing setup. Decided to fit a new hard disk with a new OS.
Installed the OS on a new hard disk, fitted the new hard disk into the
old computer and rebooted.
Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 10:48:11 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Piet van Oostrum
έγραψε:
Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com writes:
This python script acts upon websites other people use and every html
templates has been written by different methods(notepad++,
dreamweaver,
Τη Τρίτη, 22 Ιανουαρίου 2013 6:04:09 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Tim Roberts έγραψε:
Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Renames and moves are performed, either by shell access or either by cPanel
access by website owners.
That being said i have no control on HOW and WHEN users
Τη Σάββατο, 19 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:32:41 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Dennis Lee Bieber
έγραψε:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:39:44 -0800 (PST), Ferrous Cranus
nikos.gr...@gmail.com declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:
We need to find a way so even IF:
(filepath gets
Τη Σάββατο, 19 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:00:15 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Dave Angel έγραψε:
On 01/19/2013 03:39 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
Τη Σάββατο, 19 Ιανουαρίου 2013 12:09:28 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Dave Angel
έγραψε:
I don't understand the problem. A trivial Python script could scan
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
An .html page must retain its database counter value even if its:
(renamed moved contents altered)
Then you either need to tag them in some external way, or have some
kind of tracking operation - for instance, if
Τη Σάββατο, 19 Ιανουαρίου 2013 12:09:28 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Dave Angel έγραψε:
I don't understand the problem. A trivial Python script could scan
through all the files in the directory, checking which ones are missing
the identifier, and rewriting the file with the identifier added.
On 01/19/2013 03:39 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
Τη Σάββατο, 19 Ιανουαρίου 2013 12:09:28 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Dave Angel έγραψε:
I don't understand the problem. A trivial Python script could scan
through all the files in the directory, checking which ones are missing
the identifier, and
I use this .htaccess file to rewrite every .html request to counter.py
#
=
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f
RewriteRule ^/?(.+\.html)
In 8deb6f5d-ff10-4b36-bdd6-36f9eed58...@googlegroups.com Ferrous Cranus
nikos.gr...@gmail.com writes:
Problem is that i have to insert at the very first line of every .html
template of mine, a unique string containing a number like:
index.html !-- 1 --
somefile.html !-- 2--
On 01/18/2013 03:48 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
I use this .htaccess file to rewrite every .html request to counter.py
#
=
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f
Τη Παρασκευή, 18 Ιανουαρίου 2013 10:59:17 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης John Gordon
έγραψε:
Instead of inserting unique content in every page, can't you use the
document path itself as the identifier?
No, i cannot, becaue it would mess things at later time when i for example:
1. mv name.html
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