Re: Vim IS a capable IDE [was Re: Vim capable IDE?]

2005-10-19 Thread Chris Lasher
Thanks for the replies, guys! I had no idea Vim was capable of doing some of those things. The source browser in Vim is slick--I never would have known about that. As far as the GDB goes, it doesn't look like it has support for Python, but it's nice to know it's there for C if I get the chance to

Re: Vim IS a capable IDE [was Re: Vim capable IDE?]

2005-10-19 Thread Micah Elliott
On Oct 19, Chris Lasher wrote: Where do you guys go to learn all the capabilities of Vim? Just browsing through vim.org? Just type: :h to see extensive info from the User Manual, Reference Manual, and any plugins. The near-comprehensive doc list: http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/ I don't

Re: Vim IS a capable IDE [was Re: Vim capable IDE?]

2005-10-19 Thread François Pinard
[Chris Lasher] Thanks for the replies, guys! I had no idea Vim was capable of doing some of those things. One detail which should be more widely known, in my opinion, is the capability of Vim (if compiled properly) to use Python has an extension language. That is, you may add new Vim commands

Re: Vim capable IDE?

2005-10-18 Thread Chris Lasher
Thanks for your responses, guys. I can't get the PIDA page to come up for me; server timeout error. I'll have to look into Eclipse more, but I've been warned that it's resource greedy and that the VI plugin doesn't provide very much functionality. Still, that's hearsay, so I'll have to find out

Re: Vim capable IDE?

2005-10-18 Thread BJ Swope
On 18 Oct 2005 07:16:11 -0700, Chris Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A marriage of the twowould seem like the best of both worlds.Chris The pessimists would say the worst of both worlds ;) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Vim capable IDE?

2005-10-18 Thread Philippe C. Martin
True and I had to give up emacs when I went to eclipse, but it was well worth it. I seem to recall that sourcenavigator allowed to configure an external editor (or maybe was it sniff+ ?) Regards, Philippe Chris Lasher wrote: Thanks for your responses, guys. I can't get the PIDA page to come

Re: Vim capable IDE?

2005-10-18 Thread Ron Adam
Chris Lasher wrote: Thanks for your responses, guys. I can't get the PIDA page to come up for me; server timeout error. I'll have to look into Eclipse more, but I've been warned that it's resource greedy and that the VI plugin doesn't provide very much functionality. Still, that's hearsay, so

Re: Vim capable IDE?

2005-10-18 Thread Chris Lambacher
I would second that. I use Vim for editing. I find I don't need an IDE (not even for C/C++). Vim does everything I need. If I want a debugger I will use the shell debugger. Most other things can be added to Vim, though I tend to run with very few plugins. -Chris On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at

Re: Vim capable IDE?

2005-10-18 Thread Chris Lasher
Thanks again for your responses, guys. To answer the question,the features I'd love to see in a Python IDE are: * First and foremost, Vim editing behavior. Let me keep my fingers on the homerow. I'm lazy. Point and click and CTRL + SHIFT has its moments, but text editing is not one of them. *

Vim IS a capable IDE [was Re: Vim capable IDE?]

2005-10-18 Thread Chris Lambacher
Most of this stuff can be done in Vim or Emacs. I only know the details for Vim, see below. I don't know why people are insistant on claiming that Vim and Emacs can't do these kinds of things. They are, it just may take a bit more work to set up. The advantage to this extra work is that you

Re: Vim IS a capable IDE [was Re: Vim capable IDE?]

2005-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Lambacher wrote: * Usage tips/tooltips: Also something I found in PythonWin. During the writing of the method, a little tip box pops up advising me what the inputs are for a method or an instance construction for a class. Very nice, very productive. VIm 7 may support that out of the

Vim capable IDE?

2005-10-17 Thread Chris Lasher
Hello, Is there a Python-sensitive, Linux compatible IDE out there with standard bells and whistles (source browser, symbolic debugger, etc.) but with the action-per-keystroke editing capabilities of Vim? I have failed to turn up such an IDE in my Googling and IDE project-page browsing. :-(

Re: Vim capable IDE?

2005-10-17 Thread Dan Farina
Chris Lasher wrote: Hello, Is there a Python-sensitive, Linux compatible IDE out there with standard bells and whistles (source browser, symbolic debugger, etc.) but with the action-per-keystroke editing capabilities of Vim? I have failed to turn up such an IDE in my Googling and IDE