Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-22 Thread Laurent Pointal
Chris Angelico wrote: > Heavy computation might be unideal in Python, but if you can grunge it > into NumPy operations, that won't be a problem. May take a look to Pythran too, which generate C++ code from (limited subset of) Python code, usable as a Python compiled module or as standalone C++.

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > Whether I mind shipping my source, or you mind shipping your source > isn't really what matters here. What matters is that there *are* > people/companies who don't want to expose their source. Perhaps for > reasons we don't agree with. For tho

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-11 Thread Roy Smith
develop only using Python because of its code readability. This is not > >> a healthy bias. To play my own devil's advocate, I have a question. > >> What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed > >> using Python? > > [snip a bunch of g

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-10 Thread Tim Daneliuk
s. To play my own devil's advocate, I have a question. What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python? [snip a bunch of good examples] Applications in which you do not want the casual reader to be able to derive the meaning of the source code. That'

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-10 Thread Steven D'Aprano
's advocate, I have a question. >> What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed >> using Python? [snip a bunch of good examples] > Applications in which you do not want the casual reader to be able to > derive the meaning of the source code. That&#

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:21 PM, CM wrote: > On Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:43:47 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> PyPy can generate code which is comparable to compiled C in speed. >> Perhaps you mean, "if execution speed is the most important thing, using >> a naive Python interpreter may

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-10 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 02/08/2014 05:54 PM, Sam wrote: I got to know about Python a few months ago and today, I want to develop only using Python because of its code readability. This is not a healthy bias. To play my own devil's advocate, I have a question. What are the kinds of software that are not advi

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-10 Thread CM
On Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:43:47 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > PyPy can generate code which is comparable to compiled C in speed. > Perhaps you mean, "if execution speed is the most important thing, using > a naive Python interpreter may not be fast enough". Given that the OP seems

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-10 Thread Steven D'Aprano
hat are the > kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python? " > > Anything that needs to be super reliable. Obvious troll is obvious. Okay, I'll bite. What evidence do you have that programs written in Python are more bug-ridden or less reliable than p

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-02-09, Chris Angelico wrote: > Heavy computation might be unideal in Python, but if you can grunge > it into NumPy operations, that won't be a problem. While one might thing Python is not suitable for heavy number crunching, it actually gets used for that a lot due to the wide variety of

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-10 Thread Anssi Saari
Asaf Las writes: > btw, Python could be language of choice for embedded systems if small > footprint > vm could be developed. had seen similar for java having 10-20 KB byte sized > interpreter with very limited set of functions. Well, there's the newish Micro python project. Its footprint is

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-09 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 09/02/2014 10:47, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le dimanche 9 février 2014 06:17:03 UTC+1, Skybuck Flying a écrit : " However there is more... Python may lack some technical language elements like, call by reference, and perhaps other low level codes, like 8 bit, 16 bit, 32 bit integers wh

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-09 Thread wxjmfauth
Le dimanche 9 février 2014 06:17:03 UTC+1, Skybuck Flying a écrit : > " > > > > > However there is more... Python may lack some technical language elements > > like, call by reference, and perhaps other low level codes, like 8 bit, 16 > > bit, 32 bit integers which play a roll with interfac

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote: > Anything that needs to be super reliable. > > My experience so far with Python versus Delphi has shown that Python > requires way more time to debug than Delphi. > > The reason for this is the interpreter versus the compiler. > > Delphi's com

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Skybuck Flying
" I got to know about Python a few months ago and today, I want to develop only using Python because of its code readability. This is not a healthy bias. To play my own devil's advocate, I have a question. What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed us

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Angelico
readability. This is not a healthy >>> bias. To play my own devil's advocate, I have a question. What are the >>> kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python? >>> >> >> Device drivers and operating systems. Definitely don

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Asaf Las
On Sunday, February 9, 2014 5:43:47 AM UTC+2, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Nevertheless, although security by obscurity is ineffective[1], Python > supports it. You can ship only the .pyc files. For added obscurity, you > could put the .pyc files in a .zip file and ship that. For even more > obscuri

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Michael Torrie
's advocate, I have a question. What are the kinds >> of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python? >> > > Device drivers and operating systems. Definitely don't try writing > those in pure Python. That all depends. Driving a USB device using libu

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
27;s advocate, I have a question. >> What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed >> using Python? > > If execution speed is the most important thing, Python would be the > wrong choice. PyPy can generate code which is comparable to compiled C in spee

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Sam wrote: > I got to know about Python a few months ago and today, I want to develop only > using Python because of its code readability. This is not a healthy bias. To > play my own devil's advocate, I have a question. What are the kinds of > software that are

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Angelico
gt; software that are not advisable to be developed using Python? > Device drivers and operating systems. Definitely don't try writing those in pure Python. Anything that provides a C API is usually easier to program in C, so you would want to write a Python-callable glue module. Sometimes

Re: What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Denis McMahon
of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python? OS Kernels. Hardware drivers. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using Python?

2014-02-08 Thread Sam
I got to know about Python a few months ago and today, I want to develop only using Python because of its code readability. This is not a healthy bias. To play my own devil's advocate, I have a question. What are the kinds of software that are not advisable to be developed using P