Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-06 Thread Larry Hudson via Python-list
On 11/06/2015 05:25 AM, William Ray Wing wrote: On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:36 PM, Larry Hudson via Python-list wrote: [snip] You’re not REALLY an old timer unless you’ve used TECO. -Bill Agreed. I'm not really and old-timer, just old (I'm 78). My first exposure to computers was the MITS Al

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-06 Thread William Ray Wing
> On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:36 PM, Larry Hudson via Python-list > wrote: > > On 11/05/2015 05:18 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 20:19:39 + (UTC), Grant Edwards >> declaimed the following: >> >>> Though I used a line-editor for a while on VMS, I was never very good >>> at i

Re: What does ???grep??? stand for?

2015-11-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-11-06, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 20:19:39 + (UTC), Grant Edwards > declaimed the following: > >>Though I used a line-editor for a while on VMS, I was never very good >>at it, and abanded it for a full-screen editor at he first >>opportunity. But, if you ever get a

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-05 Thread Dan Sommers
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 19:36:11 -0800, Larry Hudson wrote: > Anyone besides me remember the CP/M editor Mince (Mince Is Not > Complete EMACS)? It was an emacs-like editor, without any e-Lisp or > other way of extending it. I believe it was my first exposure to a > screen-oriented editor. I quite l

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-05 Thread Larry Hudson via Python-list
On 11/05/2015 05:18 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 20:19:39 + (UTC), Grant Edwards declaimed the following: Though I used a line-editor for a while on VMS, I was never very good at it, and abanded it for a full-screen editor at he first opportunity. But, if you ever get a

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-11-05, Random832 wrote: > Grant Edwards writes: >> On 2015-11-05, Random832 wrote: >>> Of course, both of those things are also true of ed. >> >> Well, maybe not for you. I knew people who (yonks ago) used 'ed' for >> regular file editing. And I remember using the VMS line-editor for >

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-05 Thread Random832
Grant Edwards writes: > On 2015-11-05, Random832 wrote: >> Of course, both of those things are also true of ed. > > Well, maybe not for you. I knew people who (yonks ago) used 'ed' for > regular file editing. And I remember using the VMS line-editor for > regular file editing for a couple years

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-11-05, Random832 wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: >> As someone who grew up on MS-DOS, I'd like to mention that EDLIN's >> value wasn't in the obvious places. There were two features it had >> that most other editors didn't: firstly, it would read only as much >> of the file as it needed,

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-05 Thread Random832
Chris Angelico writes: > As someone who grew up on MS-DOS, I'd like to mention that EDLIN's > value wasn't in the obvious places. There were two features it had > that most other editors didn't: firstly, it would read only as much of > the file as it needed, so you could edit a file larger than av

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > The point I'm so amused is, that MS has not felt the need to ship a real > editor, and also cut back on most of the other tools that make computing, > even on commandlines, a pleasant experience. Readline? Tab-Completion? I > read a mag

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-04 Thread Christian Gollwitzer
Am 05.11.15 um 01:42 schrieb Chris Angelico: On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: As someone who grew up on MS-DOS, I'd like to mention that EDLIN's value wasn't in the obvious places. There were two features it had that most other editors didn't: firstly, it would read on

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Am 04.11.15 um 19:24 schrieb Ben Finney: >> >> The name is a mnemonic for a compound command in ‘ed’ [0], a text editor >> that pre-dates extravagant luxuries like “presenting a full screen of >> text at one time”. >> >> [... lots of f

Re: What does “grep” stand for?

2015-11-04 Thread Christian Gollwitzer
Am 04.11.15 um 19:24 schrieb Ben Finney: The name is a mnemonic for a compound command in ‘ed’ [0], a text editor that pre-dates extravagant luxuries like “presenting a full screen of text at one time”. [... lots of fun facts ...] Here is another fun fact: The convincing UI of ed was actually

Re: What does “grep” stand for? (was: Regular expressions)

2015-11-04 Thread Tim Chase
On 2015-11-05 05:24, Ben Finney wrote: > A very common command to issue, then, is “actually show me the line > of text I just specified”; the ‘p’ (for “print”) command. > > Another very common command is “find the text matching this pattern > and perform these commands on it”, which is ‘g’ (for “g

What does “grep” stand for? (was: Regular expressions)

2015-11-04 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Wednesday 04 November 2015 13:55, Dan Sommers wrote: > > > Its very name indicates that its default mode most certainly is > > regular expressions. > > I don't even know what grep stands for. “grep” stands for ‘g/RE/p’. The name is a mnemonic for a compound command