[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote in news:1i26u6o.pthuan2j7nufN%
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> Alex Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Have you seen/heard of Jim lately? Cause I haven't. By the time he
was
>> the lead of the AspectJ team his charismatic presence was everywhere
(at
>> le
Alex Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Have you seen/heard of Jim lately? Cause I haven't. By the time he was
> the lead of the AspectJ team his charismatic presence was everywhere (at
> least around that project).
He wasn't at OSCON this year, but I hope to see him at Pycon next year.
I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote in news:1i25pjo.1mo5uqc1yxqsjkN%
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> Alex Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>> > and you will both learn a lot _and_ acquire "professional
experience"
>> > that any enlightened employer will recognize as such.
>>
>> It depends
Alex Popescu a écrit :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote in news:1i23wyk.avc945i4dwsiN%
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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>
>>NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>The problem is that I would like to work as a Python programmer but
>>>all the job vacancies I can find requires a couple o
On Aug 1, 9:40 am, Alex Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> It depends :-). In my experience I met employers being concerned by my
> implication in the oss world :-).
I have the opposite experience. It was predominantly the fact that I
was involved in several open source projects that got me
NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Open source projects do not require previous professional experience to
> > accept volunteers. So, one way out of your dilemma is to make a name
> > for yourself as an open source contributor -- help out with Python
> > itself and/or with any of the many op
Alex Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> > and you will both learn a lot _and_ acquire "professional experience"
> > that any enlightened employer will recognize as such.
>
> It depends :-). In my experience I met employers being concerned by my
> implication in the oss world :-).
Consi
On July 23, NicolasG wrote:
> I want to be a professional python programmer...
> unfortunately sometimes to work as a programmer is really hard in this
> world, every employee requires professional experience and you can't
> really start as a beginner..
On July 24, NicolasG wrote:
> Python is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote in news:1i23wyk.avc945i4dwsiN%
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> NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>> The problem is that I would like to work as a Python programmer but
>> all the job vacancies I can find requires a couple of years of
>> professional experien
> Open source projects do not require previous professional experience to
> accept volunteers. So, one way out of your dilemma is to make a name
> for yourself as an open source contributor -- help out with Python
> itself and/or with any of the many open source projects that use Python,
> and yo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alex Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Open source projects do not require previous professional experience to
>accept volunteers. So, one way out of your dilemma is to make a name
>for yourself as an open source contributor -- help out with Python
>itself and/
On Jul 31, 11:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote:
> NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>...
>
> > The problem is that I would like to work as a Python programmer but
> > all the job vacancies I can find requires a couple of years of
> > professional experience ... that I don't ha
NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> The problem is that I would like to work as a Python programmer but
> all the job vacancies I can find requires a couple of years of
> professional experience ... that I don't have. How a wanna be
> programmer can start working as a programmer if there i
Star a écrit :
> MIT's freshman survey, EECS 1 is taught in Python and Scheme, soon to be
> just Python.
they should keep scheme or replace it with another (statically typed ?)
functional language IMHO.
please do the world (or at least usenet and mailing lists users) a
favour : learn to answe
MIT's freshman survey, EECS 1 is taught in Python and Scheme, soon to be
just Python.
-Star
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Omari Norman a écrit :
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 10:48:10PM -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
If you're having trouble with Python because you're new at
program
Omari Norman a écrit :
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 10:48:10PM -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
>
>
>>If you're having trouble with Python because you're new at
>>programming, I can sympathize--I don't think it's the most
>>beginner-friendly of languages despite the efforts in that direction
>>by the desig
Omari Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just curious--what language would you recommend as most
> beginner-friendly?
I'm not sure what to suggest, I don't pay much attention to this
area. Maybe Logo?
> > With some reasonable experience in Scheme or
> > Mozart or Haskell, plus a Python manual,
On 2007-07-28, Omari Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 10:48:10PM -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
>
>> If you're having trouble with Python because you're new at
>> programming, I can sympathize--I don't think it's the most
>> beginner-friendly of languages despite the efforts
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 10:48:10PM -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> If you're having trouble with Python because you're new at
> programming, I can sympathize--I don't think it's the most
> beginner-friendly of languages despite the efforts in that direction
> by the designers.
Just curious--what la
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.
.
.
>Yes true , I'm already a programmer.. doing technical support for my
>company products in a call center. I hate my job, I hate the moment I
>have to wa
On Jul 23, 1:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Laird) wrote:
> Autodidacticism is an alternative; feel free to regard
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTraining> as a member of
> that class.
>
> If you, for example, were to teach yourself Python, then
> volunteer with prominent extensions or
On 2007-07-24, Paul Rubin wrote:
> I think Python is not used in university programs very much.
> Look for one that uses SICP (Scheme) or CTM (Mozart/Oz) or a
> functional language like Haskell, in preference to the ones
> that use Java (the Cobol of the 1990's). With some reasonable
> experience
On Jul 24, 6:57 am, NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why would you want to become a programmer? Programmers smell bad,
> > they have no social life, they get treated like crap by everyone.
> > They can get paid pretty well but then they spend all the money on
> > useless electronic junk so
> Why would you want to become a programmer? Programmers smell bad,
> they have no social life, they get treated like crap by everyone.
> They can get paid pretty well but then they spend all the money on
> useless electronic junk so they still live like bums.
I wouldn't call this person program
Paul Rubin napisał(a):
>> The problem is that I would like to work as a Python programmer but
>> all the job vacancies I can find requires a couple of years of
>> professional experience ... that I don't have. How a wanna be
>> programmer can start working as a programmer if there is no chance to
NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The problem is that I would like to work as a Python programmer but
> all the job vacancies I can find requires a couple of years of
> professional experience ... that I don't have. How a wanna be
> programmer can start working as a programmer if there is no c
NicolasG a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I want to be a professional python programmer,
While there are (more and more) professional programmers using Python,
either as their main language or not, there's no such thing as a
"professional Python programmer", because being a proofessional
programmer requir
> If you have a good programming background in other languages, you
> should easily be able to pick up Python by reading the manual.
>
Dear all, thank you for your info. I forgot to mention that I already
know how to program in Python (basic), my knowledge derives from a
very good level of C (Uni
NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does some one have any suggestions on which University to attend ?
> Alternatives solutions are welcome..
If you have a good programming background in other languages, you
should easily be able to pick up Python by reading the manual.
If you don't have a pro
NicolasG wrote:
...
> I'm planning to save some money and attend a course in any of the
> universities that teach hard core Python.
>
> Does some one have any suggestions on which University to attend ?
>
In Canada, the University of Toronto is planning to switch all
first-year Comp-Sci courses
http://home.earthlink.net/~python-training/
I highly recommend Mark Lutz. Took the class last fall in Estes Park
and it was worth every penny.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I want to be a professional python programmer, unfortunately I'm
>working on technical support and don't have the time/patience to start
>making projects my self. I tried to apply to some Python positions but
>unfortunatel
On Jul 23, 11:52 am, NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does some one have any suggestions on which University to attend ?
> Alternatives solutions are welcome..
You might like this thread. Or go to comp.lang.python and search for
"python taught in schools"
http://tinyurl.com/2zlsxl
rd
--
My school does damn near all of the main ones.. BUT python .. lame..
On 7/23/07, NicolasG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to be a professional python programmer, unfortunately I'm
> working on technical support and don't have the time/patience to start
> making projects my self. I tri
Hi,
I want to be a professional python programmer, unfortunately I'm
working on technical support and don't have the time/patience to start
making projects my self. I tried to apply to some Python positions but
unfortunately sometimes to work as a programmer is really hard in this
world, every emp
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