Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-13 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 10/12/06, Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel much more productive in bash than in most Windows apps. > (I still like to have several terminal windows though.) Perhaps you have used GNU screen. It's on my definitive list of winners. (As an added bonus, using screen via SSH or---h

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-12 Thread Stephan Kuhagen
Magnus Lycka wrote: ... > I'd suggest that the OP look at the Wikipedia page in Unix > Philosophy. Read about Gancarz tenets, and replace shell scripts > with Python. (Of course, Python offers more elaborate communication > than pipes.) I'd also the link to Joel Spolsky's Biculturalism > article,

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-12 Thread Magnus Lycka
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > gord wrote: >> As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this >> language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in >> the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic >> calculations - all in a D

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-10 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 10/9/06, Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > gord wrote: > > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > >

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-09 Thread Magnus Lycka
gord wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. Python runs

RE: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-05 Thread Sells, Fred
Every C++ and Java programmer that I know, who have done a moderate sized project in Python (thus requiring learning it's strengths) states that they hope to never go back to C++ or Java. I cannot comment on VB programmers, since I don't speak to them ;) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-05 Thread Andy Dingley
gord wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. I use it, and see it primarily, as a Perl killer. It also does for Ruby and our infernal shell scripts. I've never considered using Python instead of VB.

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-05 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
gord wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. s/DOS-like/

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carl Trachte wrote: > I came from a VB/VBA environment before using Python. My experience has > been that Python has a lot more free, pre-coded tools within its community > to do the sort of things I do in my job (geometric algorithms, date-time > functions, processing and accessing lists of item

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Carl Trachte
I came from a VB/VBA environment before using Python. My experience has been that Python has a lot more free, pre-coded tools within its community to do the sort of things I do in my job (geometric algorithms, date-time functions, processing and accessing lists of items, scientific programming, et

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread gord
A very lively feedback indeed. I appreciate most of the points discussed and will persevere with the language until I understand the more powerful aspects of it. Then I will try the GUIs that were mentioned. Many thanks, Gord. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/4/06, gord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all in a DOS-l

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Rob Knapp
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 16:21 -0400, gord wrote: > What is particularly disappointing is the absence of a Windows IDE, > components and an event driven paradigm. How does Python stand relative to > the big 3, namely Visual C++, Visual Basic and Delphi? I realize that these > programming packages

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Larry Bates
gord wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. > > What is

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . >Code in Python and decide for yourself ... but again, nowadays, you're >to compare with C#, VB ... if you want to be in; that is. > >hg > One of the points

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . >I'm a complete windows novice (as in I've forced myself to forget my >experiences with it), but does windows not run vim?

RE: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Demel, Jeff
Tim Chase wrote: > >Visual Basic compared to Python >--- >VB shares some interesting aspects with Python...namely it's much >more readable than the other two. It's syntax is clunky at best, >with goto's, and cobbled-on exception handling (at least in >VB-Classic, as oppo

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Thomas Jollans
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:21:21 -0400 "gord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] all in a DOS-like environment. Python is an extremely multi-purpose language that is not dependant on GUIs or similiar riff-raff. It can be run in DOS or DOS-like systems, but that is your choice, not python's. Python ha

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Virgil Dupras
On Oct 4, 4:21 pm, "gord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Chase
Not sure if this is a troll...I've seen several of these sorts of posts on the list. But it seems innocent enough, so I'll bite. :) I'm not sure Delphi is really one of the "big 3"...surprisingly Java and C# don't make your list. > What is particularly disappointing is the absence of a Windows >

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread hg
hg wrote: > gord wrote: >> As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this >> language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in >> the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic >> calculations - all in a DOS-like environme

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread hg
gord wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. > > What is

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Paddy
gord wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. > > What is pa

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread James Stroud
gord wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. > > What is

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Fredrik Lundh
gord wrote: > What is particularly disappointing is the absence of a Windows IDE, > components and an event driven paradigm. How does Python stand relative to > the big 3, namely Visual C++, Visual Basic and Delphi? if you think those are the "big 3", you should perhaps start by asking yoursel

Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread gord
As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. What is particularly disappoint