On 2019-06-16 15:45:42 +0200, Marco Sulla via Python-list wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 01:20, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > On 05/20/2019 04:23 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
> > I assume
> >
It would have helped if you also quoted what Andrew assumed, not just
that he assumed something.
For the record, he
On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 01:20, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 05/20/2019 04:23 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
> I assume
>
Nope, it requires the instantclient and, on Linux only, also the
installclient-devel package. And a bunch of obscure and terrible settings,
like LD_LIBRARY_PATH...
On Tue, 21 May 2019 at
Am 21.05.19 um 14:27 schrieb Adriaan Renting:
Java was meant to be generic, run anywhere and abstract and hide
differences in its underlying infrastructure. This has led to the Java
VM, and also JDBC I guess.
Python was more of a script interpreted C-derivative, much closer to
the bare metal,
On 2019-05-19, Marco Sulla wrote:
>blablabla
>blablablalbla
>blablalblalbalblabla
There's no perfect language mate, in some one is easier in other not,
normal surprised you notice it so late.
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On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 13:50, Adriaan Renting wrote:
>
>
> I think it's partially a design philosophy difference.
>
> Java was meant to be generic, run anywhere and abstract and hide
> differences in its underlying infrastructure. This has led to the Java
> VM, and also JDBC I guess.
>
> Python
I think it's partially a design philosophy difference.
Java was meant to be generic, run anywhere and abstract and hide
differences in its underlying infrastructure. This has led to the Java
VM, and also JDBC I guess.
Python was more of a script interpreted C-derivative, much closer to
the
On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 11:10 AM Andrew Z wrote:
>
> Exactly right. Im not sure why Marco is wondering about native drivers not
> to be a part of python module (for oracle).
> Id be very unhappy, if a python module come with a native drivers for
> something as complex as a database.
I wouldn't
Exactly right. Im not sure why Marco is wondering about native drivers not
to be a part of python module (for oracle).
Id be very unhappy, if a python module come with a native drivers for
something as complex as a database.
Cx guys gave you the power to install what and how your project
On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:25 AM Andrew Z wrote:
>
> What does 249 specification mention about drivers?
>
Nothing. PEP 249 defines how a Python app communicates with the
database module. For instance:
import psycopg2
db = psycopg2.connect("...")
with db, db.cursor() as cur:
On 05/20/2019 04:23 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
> What does 249 specification mention about drivers?
Nothing that I can see.
But it stands to reason that at some point the Python code is going to
have to interface with the SQL database server's API. And when the
database in question is proprietary, the
What does 249 specification mention about drivers?
On Mon, May 20, 2019, 17:39 Marco Sulla via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 17:32, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>
> > Python has a the "Python Database API" (DB API 2.0)
> >
On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 17:32, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> Python has a the "Python Database API" (DB API 2.0)
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0249/
>
So why Oracle need instantclient for using cx_Oracle? They say they use
DB-API:
> *cx_Oracle* is a Python extension module that enables access
On 19/05/2019 14.27, Marco Sulla via Python-list wrote:
> I programmed in Python 2 and 3 for many years, and I find it a fantastic
> language.
>
> Now I'm programming in Java by m ore than 2 years, and even if I found its
> code much more boilerplate, I admit that JDBC is fantastic.
Python has a
The pg python lib requires
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/libpq.html
pip pulls it as a part of the lib install, whereas in oracle case you
install the driver yourself first.(suize matters)
//for some reason i thought the driver libs come as part of cx . But it was
a year ago and my
Marco,
You clearly know more about python/java universe than i do.
But im infinitely thankful to cx team for putting out the package.
Feature and performance wise , even with non supported oracle timesten, it
was fantastic.
Id always go after "native" vs jdbc. But i understand that most of apps
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 7:34 AM Marco Sulla via Python-list
wrote:
>
> I programmed in Python 2 and 3 for many years, and I find it a fantastic
> language.
>
> Now I'm programming in Java by m ore than 2 years, and even if I found its
> code much more boilerplate, I admit that JDBC is fantastic.
I programmed in Python 2 and 3 for many years, and I find it a fantastic
language.
Now I'm programming in Java by m ore than 2 years, and even if I found its
code much more boilerplate, I admit that JDBC is fantastic.
One example over all: Oracle. If you want to access an Oracle DB from
Python,
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