On Jun 28, 1:58 pm, "OKB (not okblacke)"
wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > For the rest of us, you can do a lot with just Python 3.1,
> > with or without C modules. Whether it does *enough* to be
> > considered for deployment depends on what you're deploying
> > it to do. I for one would not hes
Terry wrote:
> > IronPython targets Python 2.6.
>
> They plan to release a 2.7 version sometime this year after CPython2.7
> is released. They plan to release a 3.2 version early next year, soon
> after CPython. They should be able to do that because they already have
> a 3.1 version mostly done
Am 29.06.2010 20:30, schrieb Paul Rubin:
> "Martin v. Loewis" writes:
>> And indeed, that's available, by means of the key= argument to list.sort.
>
> Unfortunately what's needed for more generality is the ability to supply
> a comparison function, which Python2 also offers, but Python3 removes.
"Martin v. Loewis" writes:
> And indeed, that's available, by means of the key= argument to list.sort.
Unfortunately what's needed for more generality is the ability to supply
a comparison function, which Python2 also offers, but Python3 removes.
I gave an example a while back of wanting to compa
> I should point out that this wasn't a mere whimsy on Guido's part.
> Mathematically, supporting larger-than and less-than comparisons on
> complex numbers *is* a bug -- they're simply meaningless mathematically.
> (Which is greater, 2-1i or -1+2i?)
However, that's true for many other values t
On 6/28/2010 12:25 AM, John Nagle wrote:
Unfortunately, that's not what's happening in the development
pipeline.
Please do some research before posting year-old news as current news.
> Unladen Swallow targets Python 2.6.1.
It used 2.6 for development because that was the current stable relea
XBDFL. psst XBDFL: if you need a
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from community import PublicAddress
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pa.write(" *ahem* Steve Holden?")
pa.write("Steve! Holden!")
pa.volume = 10
pa.write("Steve Holden!?!?")
pa.write(Are you in the building, Steve Holden?)
pa.write(Please report the "Why Python3" thread because we need your
input)
pa.write(Thank you)
pa.close()
...sorry to pick on you Steve ;-)
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> None of PyPy, Unladen Swallow or IronPython are dependencies for
> Python 3.x to be "ready for prime time". Neither is C module
> support.
I think this is being overoptimistic. For me, "ready for prime
time" means "I can rely on being able to find a way to do w
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:25:49 -0700, John Nagle wrote:
> Unfortunately, that's not what's happening in the development
> pipeline. PyPy targets Python 2.5. Unladen Swallow targets Python
> 2.6.1. IronPython targets Python 2.6. C module support for CPython 3.x
> is still very spotty. We have
On 6/27/2010 8:28 PM, Carl Banks wrote:
On Jun 27, 5:12 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
I think that covers the main transitions in core Python.
Nice post, but it's missing one thing.
The main benefit of Python 3 for Joe Q. Scripter is this:
The Python team doesn't have to spend any effort on mainta
On Jun 27, 5:12 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
> I think that covers the main transitions in core Python.
Nice post, but it's missing one thing.
The main benefit of Python 3 for Joe Q. Scripter is this:
The Python team doesn't have to spend any effort on maintaining a lot
of old obsolete cruft, and can
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:12:10 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> 7. Order comparisonS
>
> In early Python1, I believe all objects could be (arbitrarily) compared
> and sorted. When Guido added the complex type, he decided not to add an
> arbitrary order, as he thought that could mask bugs.
I should poin
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:46 PM, MRAB wrote:
> Stephen Hansen wrote:
>>
>> On 6/27/10 6:09 PM, MRAB wrote:
>>>
>>> Terry Reedy wrote:
Another would have been to add but never remove anthing, with the
consequence that Python would become increasingly difficult to learn
and the i
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM, eric dexter wrote:
> On Jun 27, 7:46 pm, MRAB wrote:
>> Stephen Hansen wrote:
>> > On 6/27/10 6:09 PM, MRAB wrote:
>> >> Terry Reedy wrote:
>> >>> Another would have been to add but never remove anthing, with the
>> >>> consequence that Python would become increas
On Jun 27, 7:46 pm, MRAB wrote:
> Stephen Hansen wrote:
> > On 6/27/10 6:09 PM, MRAB wrote:
> >> Terry Reedy wrote:
> >>> Another would have been to add but never remove anthing, with the
> >>> consequence that Python would become increasingly difficult to learn
> >>> and the interpreter increasin
Stephen Hansen wrote:
On 6/27/10 6:09 PM, MRAB wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
Another would have been to add but never remove anthing, with the
consequence that Python would become increasingly difficult to learn
and the interpreter increasingly difficult to maintain with
volunteers. I think 2.7 is
On 6/27/10 6:09 PM, MRAB wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
Another would have been to add but never remove anthing, with the
consequence that Python would become increasingly difficult to learn
and the interpreter increasingly difficult to maintain with
volunteers. I think 2.7 is far enough in that dire
Terry Reedy wrote:
Some people appear to not understand the purpose of Python3 or more
specifically, of the changes that break Python2 code. I attempt here to
give a relatively full explanation.
SUMMARY: Python3 completes (or makes progress in) several transitions
begun in Python2.
In parti
Some people appear to not understand the purpose of Python3 or more
specifically, of the changes that break Python2 code. I attempt here to
give a relatively full explanation.
SUMMARY: Python3 completes (or makes progress in) several transitions
begun in Python2.
In particular, Python3 bunch
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