Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> You’ve got to be kidding. Look at the number of Windows-specific questions
> this groups is already full of.
Are you really unable to tell the difference between questions about
Windows-related modules and snarky, off-topic sniping at Windows
itself?
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In message , David
Robinow wrote:
> Lawrence, you've been asking a lot of off-topic questions about
> Microsoft Windows.
You’ve got to be kidding. Look at the number of Windows-specific questions
this groups is already full of.
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On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
wrote:
> In message , David
> Robinow wrote:
>
>> As an admittedly stupid comparison, I have 1579 DLLs in my
>> \windows\system32 directory.
>> Some number of these have been upgraded by Windows Update.
>
> What about the ones that aren’t? How d
In message <87aap44mc7.fsf...@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote:
> Sadly, Python's package management is rather lacking by these standards.
> The Distutils legacy assumption of “package recipient, system
> administrator, and end user are all the same person”, among other design
> decisions, makes
In message , David
Robinow wrote:
> As an admittedly stupid comparison, I have 1579 DLLs in my
> \windows\system32 directory.
> Some number of these have been upgraded by Windows Update.
What about the ones that aren’t? How do you maintain those?
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Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 02/08/2010 19:14, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:51 AM, David Robinow wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Benjamin Kaplan
wrote:
...
So these are the packages needed just to run Python in Ubuntu. It
doesn't
include the packages required for th
Mark Lawrence writes:
> How does any user or an admin cope with 500 packages?
Operating systems with good package management come with tools that help
the administrator do this job easily.
Also, operating systems with good package management encourage the
small-pieces-loosely-joined philosophy
On 02/08/2010 19:14, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:51 AM, David Robinow wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Benjamin Kaplan
wrote:
...
So these are the packages needed just to run Python in Ubuntu. It doesn't
include the packages required for the kernel, the desktop en
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:51 AM, David Robinow wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Benjamin Kaplan
> wrote:
> >...
> > So these are the packages needed just to run Python in Ubuntu. It doesn't
> > include the packages required for the kernel, the desktop environment,
> the
> > window manage
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Benjamin Kaplan
wrote:
>...
> So these are the packages needed just to run Python in Ubuntu. It doesn't
> include the packages required for the kernel, the desktop environment, the
> window manager, the terminal, and whatever else you want running. In my
> fairly c
On 02/08/2010 16:41, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Mark Lawrencewrote:
On 01/08/2010 12:10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
On 01/08/2010 08:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
On 01/08/2010 07:50, Law
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 01/08/2010 12:10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message, Mark
>> Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> On 01/08/2010 08:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
On 01/08/2010 07:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
On 01/08/2010 12:10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
On 01/08/2010 08:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
On 01/08/2010 07:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
Personally I find double clicking on an msi
In article ,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <8bkosifpi...@mid.individual.net>, Gregory Ewing wrote:
>
> > Don't you just leave the machine on overnight and wait
> > for Microsoft to download all the stuff they think
> > you should be using?
>
> Thatâs fine, but it doesnât handle t
In message , Mark
Lawrence wrote:
> On 01/08/2010 08:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message, Mark
>> Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/08/2010 07:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
> Personally I find double clicking on an msi file rather eas
On 2010-08-01, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 01/08/2010 06:17, Tim Harig wrote:
>> On 2010-08-01, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> In message, Tim Harig wrote:
>>>
It would be rewarding as it would make writing cross-platform charactor
mode applications possible.
>>>
>>> I thought Windows use
In message <8bkosifpi...@mid.individual.net>, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Don't you just leave the machine on overnight and wait
> for Microsoft to download all the stuff they think
> you should be using?
That’s fine, but it doesn’t handle the non-Microsoft stuff.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
How many .msi files would you have to click on to achieve the Windows
equivalent?
Don't you just leave the machine on overnight and wait
for Microsoft to download all the stuff they think
you should be using?
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On 01/08/2010 08:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
On 01/08/2010 07:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
Personally I find double clicking on an msi file rather easier.
Easier than apt-get dist-upgrade?
I'm sorry but I only do Eng
In message , Mark
Lawrence wrote:
> On 01/08/2010 07:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message, Mark
>> Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> Personally I find double clicking on an msi file rather easier.
>>
>> Easier than apt-get dist-upgrade?
>
> I'm sorry but I only do English, could you please transl
On 01/08/2010 07:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Mark
Lawrence wrote:
Personally I find double clicking on an msi file rather easier.
Easier than apt-get dist-upgrade?
I'm sorry but I only do English, could you please translate. :)
Mark Lawrence.
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In message , Mark
Lawrence wrote:
> Personally I find double clicking on an msi file rather easier.
Easier than apt-get dist-upgrade?
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On 01/08/2010 06:17, Tim Harig wrote:
On 2010-08-01, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Tim Harig wrote:
It would be rewarding as it would make writing cross-platform charactor
mode applications possible.
I thought Windows users were allergic to command lines.
To the best of my knowle
On 2010-08-01, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Tim Harig wrote:
>
>> It would be rewarding as it would make writing cross-platform charactor
>> mode applications possible.
>
> I thought Windows users were allergic to command lines.
To the best of my knowledge, there have never been any
In message , Emile van
Sebille wrote:
> If all else fails, repeating 24 (or 40,60?) lines feeds clears the
> screen cross platform.
Depending on the height of the terminal window...
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In message , Tim Harig wrote:
> It would be rewarding as it would make writing cross-platform charactor
> mode applications possible.
I thought Windows users were allergic to command lines.
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In message , Daniel
Fetchinson wrote:
> Sure, there are many different terminals and many different operating
> systems but in many areas python managed to hide all these complexities
> behind a well defined API.
Once upon a time, there were indeed many different kinds of actual physical
termin
Neil Cerutti wrote:
> Perhaps emailing the tests to yourself would be a good solution.
> Every tme the tests ran, you'd get a new email containing the
> results.
Nice idea, only that it's even less portable and requires manual setup...
;^)
Uli
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:01:38 -0700, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> Also, is it crazy to imagine that if colorama was pushed through to
> completion (ie. to support a majority of the relevant ANSI codes) then
> Python's stdlib curses module, unmodified, would suddenly just work on
> Windows? (after a ca
On 2010-07-28, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> It might be possible to write a curses-compatible library that works
> with cmd.exe. Maybe. But, even if it's possible, I don't think it's
> easy, and I especially don't think it would be particularly rewarding.
http://pdcurses.sourceforge.net/
It would be
On 2010-07-28, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> And Neil Cerutti, I think I'll just email the whole source tree
> to myself, and have a script that scans my inbox, unzips source
> trees and runs their tests. Much nicer. :-)
Don't forget to clear the screen, though. That ties the whole
program together.
On 07/28/2010 07:02 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> On Jul 28, 5:47 pm, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>> On 07/28/2010 06:01 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Oh, plus, while we're on this subject:
>>
>>> Am I right that curses in Python stdlib doesn't work on Windows, and
>>> there is currently no s
On Jul 28, 5:47 pm, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 07/28/2010 06:01 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
>
>
>
> > Oh, plus, while we're on this subject:
>
> > Am I right that curses in Python stdlib doesn't work on Windows, and
> > there is currently no simple way to fix this?
>
> > Also, is it crazy to imagi
On 07/28/2010 06:01 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
>
> Oh, plus, while we're on this subject:
>
> Am I right that curses in Python stdlib doesn't work on Windows, and
> there is currently no simple way to fix this?
>
> Also, is it crazy to imagine that if colorama was pushed through to
> completion
On 2010-07-28, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> I want to write a quick script which, notices whenever I save
> my source code, and re-runs the unit tests, displaying the
> output. I think I'd like it to clear the terminal before each
> re-run of the tests, so that it's immediately obvious what is
> outp
On Jul 28, 4:45 pm, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> On Jul 28, 8:08 am, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
>
>
>
> > Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
> > > After getting the technicalities out of the way, maybe I should have
> > > asked:
>
> > > Is it only me or others would find a platform independent python API
> > > to
On Jul 28, 8:08 am, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
> Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
> > After getting the technicalities out of the way, maybe I should have
> > asked:
>
> > Is it only me or others would find a platform independent python API
> > to clear the terminal useful?
>
> There are two kinds of programs
On 7/28/2010 4:23 AM Daniel Fetchinson said...
Okay, that makes perfect sense, thanks for the exaplanation!
I'll just live with the platform.system( ) check for this particular
problem then.
If all else fails, repeating 24 (or 40,60?) lines feeds clears the
screen cross platform.
Emile
-
>> > After getting the technicalities out of the way, maybe I should have
>> > asked:
>>
>> > Is it only me or others would find a platform independent python API
>> > to clear the terminal useful?
> I don't know much, but just in case the following is useful to anyone:
>
> There is a Windows prog
>> After getting the technicalities out of the way, maybe I should have
>> asked:
>>
>> Is it only me or others would find a platform independent python API
>> to clear the terminal useful?
>
> There are two kinds of programs:
> 1. Those that process input to output. If one of those suddenly starte
On Jul 28, 8:08 am, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
> Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
> > After getting the technicalities out of the way, maybe I should have
> > asked:
>
> > Is it only me or others would find a platform independent python API
> > to clear the terminal useful?
>
> There are two kinds of programs
Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
> After getting the technicalities out of the way, maybe I should have
> asked:
>
> Is it only me or others would find a platform independent python API
> to clear the terminal useful?
There are two kinds of programs:
1. Those that process input to output. If one of those
On 2010-07-27, John Nagle wrote:
> On 7/27/2010 7:44 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>> Grant Edwards a écrit :
>>> On 2010-07-27, Bruno Desthuilliers
>>> wrote:
Daniel Fetchinson a ?crit :
>> (snip)
> Why was clearing a terminal left out?
>
What you're talking about is a shell,
On 7/27/2010 12:58 PM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
After getting the technicalities out of the way, maybe I should have asked:
Is it only me or others would find a platform independent python API
to clear the terminal useful?
One problem is, Where would you put it? The OS module is for system
c
On 2010-07-27, Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
> After getting the technicalities out of the way, maybe I should have asked:
>
> Is it only me or others would find a platform independent python API
> to clear the terminal useful?
I write a lot of command-line programs, and I can't remember the last
tim
On 7/27/2010 7:44 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Grant Edwards a écrit :
On 2010-07-27, Bruno Desthuilliers
wrote:
Daniel Fetchinson a ?crit :
(snip)
Why was clearing a terminal left out?
What you're talking about is a shell, not a terminal (a terminal is a
physical device).
No, what he'
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> If I'm only interested in linux and windows I know I can do
>>>
>>>
>>> import os
>>> import platform
>>>
>>> if platform.system( ) == 'Linux':
>>> clear = 'clear'
>>> else:
>>> clear = 'cls'
>>>
>>> os.system( clear )
>>> #
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:02:23 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers
wrote:
> Daniel Fetchinson a écrit :
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> If I'm only interested in linux and windows I know I can do
>>
>>
>> import os
>> import platform
>>
>> if platform.system( ) == 'Linux':
>> clear
Grant Edwards a écrit :
On 2010-07-27, Bruno Desthuilliers
wrote:
Daniel Fetchinson a ?crit :
(snip)
Why was clearing a terminal left out?
What you're talking about is a shell, not a terminal (a terminal is a
physical device).
No, what he's talking about is clearing a terminal (or a term
On 2010-07-27, Bruno Desthuilliers
wrote:
> Daniel Fetchinson a ?crit :
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> If I'm only interested in linux and windows I know I can do
>>
>>
>> import os
>> import platform
>>
>> if platform.system( ) == 'Linux':
>> clear = 'clear'
>> else:
Daniel Fetchinson a écrit :
Hi folks,
If I'm only interested in linux and windows I know I can do
import os
import platform
if platform.system( ) == 'Linux':
clear = 'clear'
else:
clear = 'cls'
os.system( clear )
or so
Hi folks,
If I'm only interested in linux and windows I know I can do
import os
import platform
if platform.system( ) == 'Linux':
clear = 'clear'
else:
clear = 'cls'
os.system( clear )
or something equivalent using os.na
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