Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-14 Thread Noah Hall
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 1/13/2012 3:42 PM, Noah Hall wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tamer Higazi >>  wrote: >>> >>> dear people! >>> I have just opened my MTU client, and figured out that through my >>> comment, i caused a complete NONSENSE discussio

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:32:06 +, John Gordon wrote: > In <4f0fbad0$0$29984$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com> Steven D'Aprano > writes: > >> Why is it that only Linux and Mac users are accused of being "zealots"? > > Perhaps because Windows, being in a position of market dominance, > doesn'

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-13 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/13/2012 3:42 PM, Noah Hall wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: dear people! I have just opened my MTU client, and figured out that through my comment, i caused a complete NONSENSE discussion at all. 1. I am not a zealot or whatever. I code on Linux and port it on

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-13 Thread Noah Hall
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > dear people! > I have just opened my MTU client, and figured out that through my > comment, i caused a complete NONSENSE discussion at all. > > > 1. I am not a zealot or whatever. I code on Linux and port it on MAC and > WINDOWS. I do write so

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-13 Thread Tamer Higazi
dear people! I have just opened my MTU client, and figured out that through my comment, i caused a complete NONSENSE discussion at all. 1. I am not a zealot or whatever. I code on Linux and port it on MAC and WINDOWS. I do write solutions for customers across the whole 3 platform, and mostly I su

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-13 Thread John Gordon
In <4f0fbad0$0$29984$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com> Steven D'Aprano writes: > Why is it that only Linux and Mac users are accused of being "zealots"? Perhaps because Windows, being in a position of market dominance, doesn't *need* zealots. -- John Gordon A is for Amy,

Re: Zealotry

2012-01-13 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: Recommending an OS to solve one python package installation is zealotry. At least, advise to use a virtual machine software to try it out, there are some VM softwares for free working with windows. If

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
ent" has a specific meaning, and it doesn't apply to what I wrote: I did not attack a weakened or extreme version of your argument, but made a complaint about the double standards in accusations of "zealotry". If you want to accuse me of anything, it is use of weasel words like &qu

Re: Zealotry

2012-01-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: > Recommending an OS to solve one python package installation is zealotry. At > least, advise to use a virtual machine software to try it out, there are > some VM softwares for free working with windows. If I recommend

Re: Zealotry

2012-01-13 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
t to easily run that software, I don't accuse them of being a zealot. Agreed. Giving a recommendation for a different OS is not zealotry. Even if it were expressed passionately (and I don't think this case qualifies), a recommendation of software on its merits is still not zealot

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?] (OT)

2012-01-13 Thread Noah Hall
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Noah Hall, 13.01.2012 08:29: >> I'M SO COOL >> USE MY HARDCORE GENTOO INSTALL THAT TOOK 36 HOURS AND SHAVED 2 SECONDS >> OFF MY BOOTUP TIME > > Just an off-topic thing that your comment above reminded me of: has anyone > ever noticed that the

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?] (OT)

2012-01-13 Thread Stefan Behnel
Noah Hall, 13.01.2012 08:29: > I'M SO COOL > USE MY HARDCORE GENTOO INSTALL THAT TOOK 36 HOURS AND SHAVED 2 SECONDS > OFF MY BOOTUP TIME Just an off-topic thing that your comment above reminded me of: has anyone ever noticed that there are even quick install guides for Gentoo Linux? I think that'

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:41 PM, alex23 wrote: > Oh please. Don't tar me with the Windows brush. Wouldn't the Windows brush zip you instead? ChrisA definitely ready for the weekend now -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-12 Thread Stefan Behnel
recommendation. It may well be that Christoph Gohlke is generally trustworthy enough to install the software he builds in a given user setting. However, presenting this as the ultimate solution to any software installation problems is clear zealotry in my eyes, because it ignores the fact that so

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-12 Thread Noah Hall
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:47 AM, alex23 wrote: > On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, Steven D'Aprano +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: >> Why is it that only Linux and Mac users are accused of being "zealots"? > > Incidentally, in the post I replied to, Tamer was talking about > Windows 7, so there's that

Re: Zealotry

2012-01-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Giving a recommendation for a different OS is not zealotry. The line to zealotry is (probably) crossed when _every_ problem is met with "Install XYZ then". But that can still be correct. If you're currently using flat fi

Re: Zealotry

2012-01-12 Thread Ben Finney
ple tell me that I will have to use Windows if I want to easily > run that software, I don't accuse them of being a zealot. Agreed. Giving a recommendation for a different OS is not zealotry. Even if it were expressed passionately (and I don't think this case qualifies), a recommendat

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-12 Thread alex23
On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Why is it that only Linux and Mac users are accused of being "zealots"? Incidentally, in the post I replied to, Tamer was talking about Windows 7, so there's that too. Are you just riding out the Friday afternoon clock? -- http://mail.python.org/ma

Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-12 Thread alex23
On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Why is it that only Linux and Mac users are accused of being "zealots"? Oh please. Don't tar me with the Windows brush. I'd have used the same term no matter what OS was being recommended. > If I ask how to install (say) MYOB or Photoshop on Linux, an

Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?]

2012-01-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:50:13 -0800, alex23 wrote: > Tamer Higazi wrote: >> So, instead of making yourself continuously headache for an outdated OS >> I advise [...] > > Please don't recommend people use another OS when they ask an explicit > question about a particular OS. It just makes you come