Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-18 Thread Michael
Thomas Nelson wrote: > I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most > people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for > python programmers? There's been lots of answers, but no-one's mentioned the book I like: * Accelerated C++ by Koenig & Moo It dives str

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-15 Thread Steve Holden
Anders Arnholm wrote: > Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skriver: >> On 13 Feb 2007 17:51:00 GMT, Jorgen Grahn >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Well, C++ is a better language than C in many ways. So, if he needs to learn >>> one of them, why does it have to be C? >>> >>> Another reason some people choose C

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Nicola Musatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skriver: > On Feb 14, 2:41 pm, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] >> Don't forget the lack of standard garbage collection. > memory related problems. I'm aware that most is not the same as all, > but on the other hand garbage collection has it's probl

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-14 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-02-14, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Thomas Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction >>most people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ >>introduction for python programmers? > > This isn't an i

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-14 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most >people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for >python programmers? This isn't an introduction, but you should probably also pick up _Effe

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-14 Thread Nicola Musatti
On Feb 14, 2:41 pm, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Don't forget the lack of standard garbage collection. Optional garbage collection is highly likely to be included in the next C++ standard, due out in a couple of years. > Also there's the hell known as exception safety. > > Pyth

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-14 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-02-13, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13 Feb 2007 17:51:00 GMT, Jorgen Grahn ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, C++ is a better language than C in many ways. So, if he >> needs to learn one of them, why does it have to be C? >> >> Another reason some people choose C++ over Python for

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-14 Thread jkn
Hi Thomas On Feb 12, 6:00 pm, "Thomas Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most > people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for > python programmers? > They are not particularly aimed at Python programmers, but Bruce E

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-14 Thread Nicola Musatti
On Feb 14, 12:26 am, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > C++ is -not- strongly typed. You can cast anything to void *, and > manipulate it in ways unimaginable. Plus there's the whole mess that > is pointer arithmetic and a weak typesystem... The previous poster wrote "strongly typed", not "a s

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-14 Thread Anders Arnholm
Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skriver: > On 13 Feb 2007 17:51:00 GMT, Jorgen Grahn ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, C++ is a better language than C in many ways. So, if he needs to learn >> one of them, why does it have to be C? >> >> Another reason some people choose C++ over Python for some tasks i

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-13 Thread Sam
On 13 Feb 2007 17:51:00 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, C++ is a better language than C in many ways. So, if he needs to learn > one of them, why does it have to be C? > > Another reason some people choose C++ over Python for some tasks is that > they feel that larger programs

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-13 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:10:02 +0100, Maël Benjamin Mettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Nelson schrieb: [top posting fixed] >> I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most >> people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for >> python programmers? > Lear

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-13 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:35:36 +1100, andrew clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:00:51AM -0800, Thomas Nelson wrote: > >> I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most >> people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for >> python programme

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-13 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-02-12, Thomas Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction > most people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ > introduction for python programmers? To become productive in C++ in a short time, especially with a Python background, I hi

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-13 Thread Nicola Musatti
On Feb 12, 7:00 pm, "Thomas Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most > people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for > python programmers? I don't think there's any book catering specifically for people coming from dyn

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-12 Thread Andy Terrel
On Feb 12, 4:11 pm, "Thomas Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 12, 1:35 pm, andrew clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thomas, I sent you a message off-list but it bounced due to your mailbox > > being full. > > > Short answer: Subscribe to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list and > > as

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-12 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Feb 12, 1:35 pm, andrew clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas, I sent you a message off-list but it bounced due to your mailbox > being full. > > Short answer: Subscribe to the c-prog@yahoogroups.com mailing list and > ask your C/C++ questions there. > > Regards > Andrew I have to edit a

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-12 Thread andrew clarke
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:00:51AM -0800, Thomas Nelson wrote: > I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most > people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for > python programmers? Thomas, I sent you a message off-list but it bounced due to your mailbox being

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thomas Nelson wrote: > I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most > people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for > python programmers? I would stick with C unless you need to edit C++ code. (Calling them C/C++ doesn't make much sense as they're separate l

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-12 Thread Maël Benjamin Mettler
SAMS "Teach yourself C in 21 days" by Bradley L. Jones and Peter Aitken Learning C++ is not worth is in my opinion, since you can get the OOP power from Python and use C if you need speed... Thomas Nelson schrieb: > I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most > people go, but

c++ for python programmers

2007-02-12 Thread Thomas Nelson
I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for python programmers? Thanks, Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list