In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Thomas Bellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
const is in C89/C90.
Although with slightly different semantics from in C++... For
instance:
static const int n = 5;
double a[n];
is valid C++, but not valid C.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
gregarican wrote:
Here are a few languages I recommend most programmers should at least
have a peek at:
(snip)
2) Lisp - Along with FORTRAN, one of the oldest programming languages
still
bruno wrote:
Err...
And ?
It's the snide, curt replies such as your recent ones in this thread
that reinforce the generalization that the Python community can be
rude.
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gregarican wrote:
bruno wrote:
Err...
And ?
It's the snide, curt replies such as your recent ones in this thread
that reinforce the generalization that the Python community can be
rude.
I'm afraid you're right, at least for the second one, and I do apologise
NB : the fist one
bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
It _can_ be used as a pure functional language. An interpreter for a
pure-functional subset of LISP can be written
And ?
You will have a functionally pure dialect of a very useful language
that makes it impossible to
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my everyday work, I am forced to use a C90 only compiler, and
everyday I miss some C++ feature that wouldn't make my program any more
complex, quite the opposite. These are features like const, no default
extern
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Daniel Nogradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone shed some light on the secret of Java?
Java and C#/CLR I class as instant-software-bloat-just-add-water
technologies. That is, they are very popular in corporate circles, where
the users don't get to choose what
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
const is in C89/C90.
Although with slightly different semantics from in C++... For
instance:
static const int n = 5;
double a[n];
is valid C++, but not valid C.
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Daniel Nogradi wrote:
The Dice (find tech jobs) has offerings
(last 7 days, U.S. + unrestricted) for:
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Can anyone shed some light on the secret of Java? How is it that they
are so high on this list?
Sun invented a roundabout
gregarican wrote:
Here are a few languages I recommend most programmers should at least
have a peek at:
(snip)
2) Lisp - Along with FORTRAN, one of the oldest programming languages
still in use. Pure functional programming model
Err... Even if Lisp is the father of functional programming,
bruno wrote:
Err... Even if Lisp is the father of functional programming, it is
definitively not a 'pure' FPL.
True. I couldn't referred to something like Haskell as being pure FP.
My bad :-)
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gregarican wrote:
1) Smalltalk - The original object oriented programming language.
Influenced anything from Mac/Windows GUI to Java language.
No. Simula is the original object oriented programming language.
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Ray wrote:
John Salerno wrote:
At which level in the 'python challenge' did
you get stuck - and why?
Ugh, don't remind me! :)
I'm stuck on level 12, which is yet another image processing puzzle. I'm
getting tired of those, and I think it's really a shame that there is a
This is EXACTLY
Hi,
It is very hard to avoid C in embedded/low-level/industrial programming.
Philippe
John Salerno wrote:
Because of my 'novice-ness' in programming, I had always thought that C
was replaced by C++ and wasn't really used anymore today. I know that's
not the case at all now, but I'm still
gregarican wrote:
Here are a few languages I recommend most programmers should at least
have a peek at:
1) Smalltalk - The original object oriented programming language.
Influenced anything from Mac/Windows GUI to Java language. Terse, clean
syntax. IDE rolled into an operating system
Rune wrote:
No. Simula is the original object oriented programming language.
Thanks for pointing this out. I had read about references to Simula but
never looked beyond the term itself. Interesting stuff. Especially
since it was developed so long ago. Very interesting...
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my everyday work, I am forced to use a C90 only compiler, and
everyday I miss some C++ feature that wouldn't make my program any more
complex, quite the opposite. These are features like
Thomas Bellman wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
const is in C89/C90.
Although with slightly different semantics from in C++... For
instance:
static const int n = 5;
double a[n];
is valid C++, but not valid C.
There are other differences as well. In C,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
gregarican wrote:
Here are a few languages I recommend most programmers should at least
have a peek at:
(snip)
2) Lisp - Along with FORTRAN, one of the oldest programming languages
still in use. Pure functional
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Roy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would add to that list PostScript. Most people think of it as just
format for print files, but it's a a real general-purpose programming
language, and a cool one at that (with an clear similarity to FORTH).
Having used both
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2006-04-08, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for *learning* the languages: never learn a language
without a specific inducement.
That's silly. Learning (weather a computer language, a natural
language, or anything else) is never a bad thing. The more
John Zenger wrote:
Your message makes me sad, as if I heard someone say never read a book
without a specific inducement; if you know someone is going to ask you
about the book, start reading it today, but if you don't know what you
are going to use the book for, reading it will be a waste of
Grant Edwards wrote:
As for *learning* the languages: never learn a language
without a specific inducement.
That's silly. Learning (weather a computer language, a natural
language, or anything else) is never a bad thing. The more
languages you know, the more you understand about languages
Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote:
I don't exactly see why this is a contradiction. Specific inducement
does not necessarily mean that you have to have an external cause to
learn a language -- be it your job or whatever. Nobody hinders you from
creating that inducement yourself. It's just very hard to
Sandra-24 wrote:
C/C++ is used for a lot of things and not going anywhere.
I recommend you learn it not because you should create applications in
C or C++, but because it will increase your skills and value as a
programmer. I recommend you even spend a few weeks with an assembly
language,
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
As for *learning* the languages: never learn a language without a
specific inducement. If you know you are going to write a Python
extension, an Apache module, or a Linux kernel module in the
near future, start learning C today. If you don't know what you
want to use
How Relevant is C Today? I still need it for Writing!
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Casey
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Hi John
It's just that I obessively like to learn new things,
and I keep moving on to new subjects once I've 'learned'
something well enough.
Ha!
So learn 'Perl' then - you'll never ever
get over this point ... ;-))
And if you, against all odds, think you
master it now - zon, a new
Hi Scott
your summary looks very concise and
good to read. I'd like to make some
minor additions,
C can express neither exceptions nor coroutines (nor their fancy cousin,
continuations), which could be and were expressed in assembly. Nor does
C provide memory management. A few library
Mirco Wahab wrote:
I would say, from my own experience, that you wouldn't
use all C++ features in all C++ projects. Most people
I know would write C programs 'camouflaged' as C++,
that is: write clean simple C - and use some C++
features e.g, class bound methods for interfaces -
but no
Mirco Wahab wrote:
At which level in the 'python challenge' did
you get stuck - and why?
Ugh, don't remind me! :)
I'm stuck on level 12, which is yet another image processing puzzle. I'm
getting tired of those, and I think it's really a shame that there is a
reliance on image puzzles rather
Here are a few languages I recommend most programmers should at least
have a peek at:
1) Smalltalk - The original object oriented programming language.
Influenced anything from Mac/Windows GUI to Java language. Terse, clean
syntax. IDE rolled into an operating system rolled into a set of core
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
gregarican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here are a few languages I recommend most programmers should at least
have a peek at:
1) Smalltalk - The original object oriented programming language.
Influenced anything from Mac/Windows GUI to Java language. Terse, clean
John Salerno wrote:
At which level in the 'python challenge' did
you get stuck - and why?
Ugh, don't remind me! :)
I'm stuck on level 12, which is yet another image processing puzzle. I'm
getting tired of those, and I think it's really a shame that there is a
This is EXACTLY why I am
Because of my 'novice-ness' in programming, I had always thought that C
was replaced by C++ and wasn't really used anymore today. I know that's
not the case at all now, but I'm still curious how much C is used
anymore in programming today, and what purpose it serves. Is it used for
actual
John Salerno wrote:
Because of my 'novice-ness' in programming, I had always thought that C
was replaced by C++ and wasn't really used anymore today. I know that's
not the case at all now, but I'm still curious how much C is used
anymore in programming today, and what purpose it serves. Is it
Hi John
Because of my 'novice-ness' in programming, I had always thought that C
was replaced by C++ and wasn't really used anymore today. I know that's
not the case at all now, but I'm still curious how much C is used
anymore in programming today, and what purpose it serves.
There is a
The Dice (find tech jobs) has offerings
(last 7 days, U.S. + unrestricted) for:
*SQL 14,322
C/C++11,968
Java 10,143
...
Perl 3,332
PHP 730
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Ruby108
open*gl 66
Can anyone shed some light
Daniel Nogradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can anyone shed some light on the secret of Java? How is it that they
are so high on this list?
Marketing? Hype? :-)
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- Qualquer coisa dita em latim soa profundo.
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Mirco Wahab [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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On Apr 8, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Jorge Godoy wrote:
Mirco Wahab [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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John Salerno enlightened us with:
Because of my 'novice-ness' in programming, I had always thought that C
was replaced by C++ and wasn't really used anymore today.
C is used in many, many programs. The Linux kernel is perhaps one of
the best known. IIRC Apache is written inC too. The default
C/C++ is used for a lot of things and not going anywhere.
I recommend you learn it not because you should create applications in
C or C++, but because it will increase your skills and value as a
programmer. I recommend you even spend a few weeks with an assembly
language, for the same reason.
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
As for *learning* the languages: never learn a language without a
specific inducement. If you know you are going to write a Python
extension, an Apache module, or a Linux kernel module in the
near future, start learning C today. If you don't know what you
want to use
On 2006-04-08, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for *learning* the languages: never learn a language
without a specific inducement.
That's silly. Learning (weather a computer language, a natural
language, or anything else) is never a bad thing. The more
languages you know, the
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