Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 2018-03-27, Chris Angelico wrote: > Any time you see something that requires JavaScript for this, you know > you've found a web site that dates back to... uhh, actually I don't > know. I only have versioning info on MDN back as far as HTML 4.01 ergo > 1999, and the

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

Quick note: we've implemented the fix Terry Jan Reedy suggested regarding window width and filters to fix https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/3454 , so thank you to everyone who helped us nail this down. The next IRC/Twitter livechat hour with PyPI maintainers is Tuesday, April 3rd at 15:00

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 30 March 2018 at 14:38, William Ray Wing wrote: > Sumana, I want to be sure we aren’t just talking past each other. I notice > that the URL you seem to always reference is: > > https://pypi.org/search/ > > and if I go there, I get the filter list immediately. The place

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:50 AM, sumana.hariharesw...@gmail.com wrote: > > [byte] > : I ask you the usual list of troubleshooting questions. What OS and browser > are you using, what plugins and particularly interesting preferences are you > using, and so on. (When I turn off JavaScript in

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 03/29/2018 11:55 AM, Bill Deegan wrote: Re color. Would the python.org background color (which is darker) work? To my eyes the background on pypi looks like the highlight color on python.org (I've said this earlier, but just curious if that's what

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

Re color. Would the python.org background color (which is darker) work? To my eyes the background on pypi looks like the highlight color on python.org (I've said this earlier, but just curious if that's what others see as well) On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Ethan Furman

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On 03/29/2018 11:01 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 10:48:52 AM UTC-4, Ethan Furman wrote: The new PyPI lists of projects wastes too much space, and the bright blue >> is intolerable. I can't use it. When you say the bright blue is intolerable, I presume it

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 10:48:52 AM UTC-4, Ethan Furman wrote: > The new PyPI lists of projects wastes too much space, and the bright blue is > intolerable. I can't use it. As I think you know, I'm tracking the condensed view request in https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/1988 .

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On 03/29/2018 09:01 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: I appreciate you sharing your assessment. Thank you. I've filed [...snip details...] Wow. Thanks for all the confirmations of feedback received and issues created, Sumana! I wish the big companies had user support this good. :) --

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 6:28:12 PM UTC-4, Ian wrote: > For me, the category filters alone are a killer feature over the old > PyPI. I think it's also a plus to the Python community overall that > PyPI not look to newcomers like something that was designed in the 90s > and then abandoned.

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On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 4:47:42 PM UTC-4, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 3/28/2018 10:50 AM, sumana.hariharesw...@gmail.com wrote: > > > People who literally don't see the list of ways to filter on the left-hand > > side of https://pypi.org/search/ : I ask you the usual list of > >

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On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 9:36:56 AM UTC-4, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 03/26/2018 03:16 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > > > The new Python Package Index at https://pypi.org is now in beta. > > The banner says: > > --> This is a beta deployment of Warehouse. Changes made here affect the >

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On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 1:17:20 PM UTC-4, William Ray Wing wrote: > > On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:50 AM, sumana.hariharesw...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > [byte] > > > > > People who literally don't see the list of ways to filter on the left-hand > > side of https://pypi.org/search/ > >

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 3/28/2018 10:50 AM, sumana.hariharesw...@gmail.com wrote: People who literally don't see the list of ways to filter on the left-hand side of https://pypi.org/search/ : I ask you the usual list of troubleshooting questions. What OS and browser are you using, what plugins and particularly

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:50 AM, sumana.hariharesw...@gmail.com wrote: > > [byte] > > People who literally don't see the list of ways to filter on the left-hand > side of https://pypi.org/search/ I do see the list of filters, but I only get it AFTER I’ve entered my first search term. I

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On 03/28/2018 07:50 AM, sumana.hariharesw...@gmail.com wrote: [snip lots of actions] Cool, thanks! -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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On 28/03/2018 15:50, sumana.hariharesw...@gmail.com wrote: I'll give a bit of context on PyPI's new visual design, then talk about specific concerns folks have mentioned in this thread. [... snip ...] At the risk of sounding patronising, can I thank you for coming back to engage with the

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On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 1:47:11 AM UTC-4, dieter wrote: > Someone asked for feedback here. At least he should look for it here. I'm a woman. Please use "she" to refer to me. -Sumana Harihareswara -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 6:19:57 AM UTC-4, Wolfgang Maier wrote: > For me, that's a window width issue. The sidebar with the filters only > shows when the window is wide enough. Unfortunately, the text mentioning > it doesn't change, so this should be fixed. Thanks. Filed as

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 6:03:27 AM UTC-4, Paul Moore wrote: > Digging into this further, the design work on the Warehouse site has > been ongoing since late 2015, and there was an extensive user testing > phase, so honestly, I think it's too late to be arguing that the site > design is a

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 03/27/2018 03:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:03:00 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: Digging into this further, the design work on the Warehouse site has been ongoing since late 2015, and there was an extensive user testing phase, (And yes, I hate the front page of the main

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 03/26/2018 03:16 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: The new Python Package Index at https://pypi.org is now in beta. The banner says: --> This is a beta deployment of Warehouse. Changes made here affect the production instance of PyPI (pypi.python.org). Why is a beta instance affecting the

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Tim Golden writes: > ... > In either case, talking about it > here seems fruitless. Someone asked for feedback here. At least he should look for it here. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > The new Python Package Index at https://pypi.org is now in beta. > > This means the site is robust, but we anticipate needing more user > testing and changes before it is "production-ready" and can fully > replace

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Paul Moore wrote: maybe a less technical term[1] like "filters" would help here? Categories? -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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The back ground blue on the pypi page is the highlight blue on the python.org page, they should change the color to match to background python.org color. -Bill On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano < steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 22:25:44

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 22:25:44 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> As an extra bonus, even when

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 22:25:44 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> As an extra bonus, even when searching is not reliant on Javascript, >> mangling the text in the search box often is, so unless I'm extra

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > As an extra bonus, even when searching is not reliant on Javascript, > mangling the text in the search box often is, so unless I'm extra > careful, whenever I want to search for (say) "aardvarks", I

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:03:00 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > Digging into this further, the design work on the Warehouse site has > been ongoing since late 2015, and there was an extensive user testing > phase, Oh? What did they test the user for? Whatever it was, it was a pity they didn't test them

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

For me, that's a window width issue. The sidebar with the filters only shows when the window is wide enough. Unfortunately, the text mentioning it doesn't change, so this should be fixed. On 03/27/2018 12:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:48:15 +0100, Paul Moore wrote:

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 27/03/2018 11:06, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:48:15 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: By the way, on the search page: https://pypi.org/search/ it says "Enter a search query above, or select a filter from the list of classifiers on the left" but there is no such filter or list of

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:48:15 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: >> By the way, on the search page: >> >> https://pypi.org/search/ >> >> >> it says "Enter a search query above, or select a filter from the list >> of classifiers on the left" but there is no such filter or list of >> classifiers. > > Do you

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 27 March 2018 at 10:48, Paul Moore wrote: > Same is true of your comment about the site design, > although I suspect it's a bit late for that to be changed in the > immediate future - the site design has been basically unchanged since > very early in the redesign.

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On 27 March 2018 at 09:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:16:26 -0400, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > >> The new Python Package Index at https://pypi.org is now in beta. >> >> This means the site is robust, but we anticipate needing more user

Re: please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:16:26 -0400, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > The new Python Package Index at https://pypi.org is now in beta. > > This means the site is robust, but we anticipate needing more user > testing and changes before it is "production-ready" and can fully > replace

please test the new PyPI (now in beta)

The new Python Package Index at https://pypi.org is now in beta. This means the site is robust, but we anticipate needing more user testing and changes before it is "production-ready" and can fully replace https://pypi.python.org . We hope to complete the transition before the end of April 2018.