On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:29:21 -0700, Wesley wrote:
Currently our company wanna release one product developed by python to
our customer. But dont's wanna others see the py code.
Your business model is fucked.
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CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote:
You're saying that fear of patent trolls is yet another bad reason to
obfuscate your code? But then it almost sounds like you think it is a
justifiable reason. So I don't think I understand your point. Whether a
patent troll has your original code or not has
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:07:57 AM UTC-4, Sturla Molden wrote:
CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote:
You're saying that fear of patent trolls is yet another bad reason to
obfuscate your code? But then it almost sounds like you think it is a
justifiable reason. So I don't think I
Sturla Molden, 11.04.2014 11:17:
Joshua Landau wrote:
However, if this really is your major blocker to using Python, I
suggest compiling with Cython.
Cython restains all the code as text, e.g. to readable generate exceptions.
No, it actually doesn't. It only keeps the code in C comments,
On 11 April 2014 02:29, Wesley nisp...@gmail.com wrote:
Does python has any good obfuscate?
Most other people on the list will point out why such a thing is
mostly pointless and you don't really need it.
However, if this really is your major blocker to using Python, I
suggest compiling with
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Joshua Landau jos...@landau.ws wrote:
But I do warn that it's adding another abstracting step that
doesn't improve - it probably harms - the overall usability of the
product. Further, a determined hacker can circumvent it, much as they
can circumvent everything
Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
The only reliable way to prevent a customer from reverse-engineering
your software is to not give them the software.
Not really. You just need to make it so difficult that it is not worth the
effort. In that case they will go away and do something else
Wesley nisp...@gmail.com wrote:
Does python has any good obfuscate?
Currently our company wanna release one product developed by python to
our customer. But dont's wanna others see the py code.
I googled for a while but mostly just say using pyc. Any better one?
It depends on the
Joshua Landau jos...@landau.ws wrote:
However, if this really is your major blocker to using Python, I
suggest compiling with Cython.
Cython restains all the code as text, e.g. to readable generate exceptions.
Users can also still steal the extension modules and use them in their own
code. In
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote:
The only way to protect your code is never to ship anything.
It's worth noting, as an aside, that this does NOT mean you don't
produce or sell anything. You can keep your code secure by running it
on a server and
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote:
Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
The only reliable way to prevent a customer from reverse-engineering
your software is to not give them the software.
Not really...
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Sturla
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 04:22:49 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com
wrote:
Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
The only reliable way to prevent a customer from reverse-engineering
your software is to not give them the software.
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com
wrote:
The only way to protect your code is never to ship anything.
It's worth noting, as an aside, that this does NOT mean you don't
produce or sell anything. You can keep your
Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
How is that last statement different from the one I made above, that
you disagreed with?
Who says I disagreed?
But to answer you question, it depends on the level of safety you need:
Total secrecy or just enough protection to make it not worthwhile to
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:32 PM, c...@isbd.net wrote:
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com
wrote:
The only way to protect your code is never to ship anything.
It's worth noting, as an aside, that this does NOT mean
c...@isbd.net wrote:
It's worth noting, as an aside, that this does NOT mean you don't
produce or sell anything. You can keep your code secure by running it
on a server and permitting users to access it; that's perfectly safe.
Perfectly? :-)
Unless you have a heartbleed :)
Sturla
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:29:21 -0700, Wesley wrote:
Hi all,
Does python has any good obfuscate?
Currently our company wanna release one product developed by python to
our customer. But dont's wanna others see the py code.
I googled for a while but mostly just say using pyc. Any better
On 11/04/2014 14:06, Sturla Molden wrote:
c...@isbd.net wrote:
It's worth noting, as an aside, that this does NOT mean you don't
produce or sell anything. You can keep your code secure by running it
on a server and permitting users to access it; that's perfectly safe.
Perfectly? :-)
alister alister.nospam.w...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Concentrate on making the product (even) better rather than trying to
hide the unhideable.
I think the number one reason for code obfuscation is an ignorant boss.
Another reason might be to avoid the shame of showing crappy code to the
On 4/10/14 8:29 PM, Wesley wrote:
Does python has any good obfuscate?
Others have answered this well, but I thought I would give you
another opinion, perhaps more direct.
Obfuscation (hiding) of your source is *bad*, usually done for one
of the following reasons:
1) Boss is
On 04/10/2014 07:29 PM, Wesley wrote:
Hi all, Does python has any good obfuscate?
Currently our company wanna release one product developed by python
to our customer. But dont's wanna others see the py code.
I googled for a while but mostly just say using pyc. Any better one?
Our
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Mark H Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
This is the age of open source in computer science.
It is far better to develop a strategy and culture of openness. Everyone
benefits; especially your customers. I recommend the GPLv3 license.
While I
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote:
Most end users will never know or care what you build the app with, even
if you have a directory full of open .py files. 99% of the users of a
popular ebook app called Calibre never know or care that it's made of
python
Mark H Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
This is the age of open source in computer science.
It is far better to develop a strategy and culture of openness.
Everyone benefits; especially your customers. I recommend the GPLv3
license. I also advocate for copyleft.
I would not
Mark H Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
Obfuscation (hiding) of your source is *bad*, usually done for one
of the following reasons:
1) Boss is paranoid and fears loss of revenues due to intellectual
property theft.
2) Boss is ignorant of reverse engineering strategies
On 2014-04-11, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Wesley nisp...@gmail.com wrote:
Umm, just wanna make all .py files not human readable.
Or, maybe need a tool like zend in php.
The only reliable way to prevent a customer from reverse-engineering
your
On 2014-04-11, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com
wrote:
The only way to protect your code is never to ship anything.
It's worth noting, as an aside, that this does NOT mean you don't
produce or sell anything. You
On 2014-04-11, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote:
alister alister.nospam.w...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Concentrate on making the product (even) better rather than trying to
hide the unhideable.
I think the number one reason for code obfuscation is an ignorant
boss.
Another reason
On 11 April 2014 10:17, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote:
Joshua Landau jos...@landau.ws wrote:
However, if this really is your major blocker to using Python, I
suggest compiling with Cython.
Cython restains all the code as text, e.g. to readable generate exceptions.
Users can
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:27:27 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
Another reason I've heard of is to try to reduce support efforts.
If you distribute something that's easy to modify, then people will.
The majority of people will treat your app as a black box. Of course, a
small minority (either out
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:27:27 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
Another reason I've heard of is to try to reduce support efforts.
If you distribute something that's easy to modify, then people will.
The majority of people will treat
On Friday, April 11, 2014 12:13:47 PM UTC-4, Sturla Molden wrote:
Mark H Harris harrismh...@gmail.com wrote:
Obfuscation (hiding) of your source is *bad*, usually done for one
of the following reasons:
1) Boss is paranoid and fears loss of revenues due to intellectual
Hi all,
Does python has any good obfuscate?
Currently our company wanna release one product developed by python to our
customer. But dont's wanna others see the py code.
I googled for a while but mostly just say using pyc. Any better one?
Our product is deployed on Linux bed.
Thanks.
Wesley
Wesley nisp...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all,
Does python has any good obfuscate?
Define “good obfuscate”. What is your goal?
If it is to hide your program's secrets from others, then obfuscation
isn't going to help: no matter how good it is, it still needs to be
readable by the runtime on the
On 4/10/2014 6:29 PM, Wesley wrote:
Hi all, Does python has any good obfuscate?
Currently our company wanna release one product developed by python
to our customer. But dont's wanna others see the py code.
I googled for a while but mostly just say using pyc. Any better one?
Does that work?
pyc has weakness:
1. easy to decompile
2. python version related, e.g. pyc from py2.5 cannot be used to py2.7 bed
在 2014年4月11日星期五UTC+8上午9时48分04秒，Tobiah写道：
On 4/10/2014 6:29 PM, Wesley wrote:
Hi all, Does python has any good obfuscate?
Currently our company wanna release one
Umm, just wanna make all .py files not human readable.
Or, maybe need a tool like zend in php.
在 2014年4月11日星期五UTC+8上午9时41分11秒，Ben Finney写道：
Wesley nisp...@gmail.com writes:
Hi all,
Does python has any good obfuscate?
Define “good obfuscate”. What is your goal?
If it
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote:
On 4/10/2014 6:29 PM, Wesley wrote:
Hi all, Does python has any good obfuscate?
Currently our company wanna release one product developed by python
to our customer. But dont's wanna others see the py code.
I googled for a while
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Wesley nisp...@gmail.com wrote:
Umm, just wanna make all .py files not human readable.
Or, maybe need a tool like zend in php.
The only reliable way to prevent a customer from reverse-engineering
your software is to not give them the software. For example,
Wesley nisp...@gmail.com writes:
Umm, just wanna make all .py files not human readable.
(Please don't top-post; instead, use interleaved replies
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make the conversation legible.)
You want the code not readable by which humans?
On 11/04/2014 04:12, Ben Finney wrote:
Wesley nisp...@gmail.com writes:
Umm, just wanna make all .py files not human readable.
(Please don't top-post; instead, use interleaved replies
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