"George Sakkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Feb 28, 10:45 pm, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > Tuples are intended for use as heterogeneous data structures [...]
> > Lists are intended for use as homogeneous sequences [...]
>
> Nice, that's a good summary of the straw man arguments about the
> "true"
On Mar 1, 5:02 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't know Ruby, but I think it allows such purposes with a freezing
> function.
In ruby all objects can be frozen (freeze is a method on Object, from
which all other objects derive), not just Arrays (Arrays == lists in
python; ruby has no built-in c
George Sakkis, I agree with the things you say.
Sometimes you may have a sequence of uniform data with unknown len (so
its index doesn't have semantic meaning). You may want to use it as
dict key, so you probably use a tuple meant as just an immutable list.
I don't know Ruby, but I think it allows
Ben Finney wrote:
> Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Explain.
>
> Well, since you ask so politely :-)
I admit, sometimes I'm a little short-spoken ;)
>> I know tuples as immutable lists ...
>
> That's a common misconception.
> [...]
Thanks for pointers, there's more to it than I su
On Feb 28, 10:45 pm, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I know tuples as immutable lists ...
>
> That's a common misconception.
And this catch phrase, "that's a common misconception", is a common
aping of the BDFL's take on this. As severa
Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > A tuple implies a meaning associated with each position in the
> > sequence (like a record with a positional meaning for each field),
> > a list implies the opposite (a sequence with order but not meaning
> > associated with
Op 2005-01-11, Reinhold Birkenfeld schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Op 2005-01-10, Bruno Desthuilliers schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Antoon Pardon a écrit :
Op 2005-01-08, Bruno Desthuilliers schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>worzel a écrit :
>
>>I get wh
Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 2005-01-10, Bruno Desthuilliers schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Antoon Pardon a écrit :
>>> Op 2005-01-08, Bruno Desthuilliers schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
worzel a écrit :
>I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
>ev
Op 2005-01-10, Bruno Desthuilliers schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Antoon Pardon a écrit :
>> Op 2005-01-08, Bruno Desthuilliers schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>worzel a écrit :
>>>
I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
ever care about the tuple's immu
Antoon Pardon a écrit :
Op 2005-01-08, Bruno Desthuilliers schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
worzel a écrit :
I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
Because, from a purely pratical POV, only an immutable object can be
used as
Op 2005-01-08, Bruno Desthuilliers schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> worzel a écrit :
>> I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
>> ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
>
> Because, from a purely pratical POV, only an immutable object can be
> used as kay in a
Steve Holden wrote:
> worzel wrote:
> >'Two-Pull' it is then, thanks.
> >
> Well, it might be "Two-Pull" in American, but in English it's "tyoopl"
> -- NOT "choopl" (blearch!). I've also heard people say "tuppl".
>
> So, basically, say whatever you want. Language is about communication :-)
Or ju
worzel wrote:
I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
Also, do you say 'too-ple' or 'chu-ple' - if you get my drift. (tomato or
tomato kind of thing)
TIA
I use the Festival Speech Synthesis System to learn pronunciatio
yes, "tyoopl" - thats what I meant by 'choo-ple' (not v good at the
phonetics)
As a scouse git (though living in Australia), I would definitely say
'tyoopl'.
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> worzel wrote:
>
>> Cheers - thanks for the feedback guys -
Steve Holden wrote:
Well, it might be "Two-Pull" in American, but in English it's "tyoopl"
-- NOT "choopl" (blearch!). I've also heard people say "tuppl".
Probably the same ones who attend Tuppl-ware parties.
--Irmen
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worzel wrote:
Cheers - thanks for the feedback guys - pretty much answers the question for
me.
'Two-Pull' it is then, thanks.
Well, it might be "Two-Pull" in American, but in English it's "tyoopl"
-- NOT "choopl" (blearch!). I've also heard people say "tuppl".
So, basically, say whatever you wa
Cheers - thanks for the feedback guys - pretty much answers the question for
me.
'Two-Pull' it is then, thanks.
"Steve Horsley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> worzel wrote:
>> I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
>> ever care
worzel wrote:
I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
Mainly for security and speed. Many library functions return info by
returning
a reference to an internally held tuple, and could be damaged / compromised
/ corrupted
worzel a écrit :
I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
Because, from a purely pratical POV, only an immutable object can be
used as kay in a dict. So you can use tuples for 'composed key'.
Bruno
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I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
Also, do you say 'too-ple' or 'chu-ple' - if you get my drift. (tomato or
tomato kind of thing)
TIA
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