Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-10 Thread rdmurray
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: > In article , > wrote: > >Quoth a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz): > >> Then I have the problem of copying around the syntax highlighting > >> configuration to every computer I use. > > > >Well, _that's_ easy to fix. I have a little bash script called > >'synchome'

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-10 Thread Aahz
In article , wrote: >Quoth a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz): >> In article , >> Thorsten Kampe wrote: >>>* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 09:29:43 -0800) Polarized sunglasses don't work too well with LCD monitors >>> >>>Well, the answer to your issue with syntax highlighting is to use a >>>/decent/ hi

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Bob Martin
in 100686 20090203 181957 Catherine Heathcote wrote: >Tim Rowe wrote: >> 2009/2/3 Jervis Whitley : >> >>> real programmers use ed. >> >> Ed? Eee, tha' were lucky. We had to make holes in Hollerith cards wi' >> our bare teeth... >> > >You had teeth!?! > >Oh and hi, I shall be a new face in the cro

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Torabisu
On Feb 1, 9:42 am, "mcheun...@hotmail.com" wrote: > Hi all >    what IDE is the best to write python? > thanks > from Peter (mcheun...@hotmail.com) I use a combination of: 1. VI/VIM 2. Eclipse with PyDev extensions 3. NetBeans with Python Module installed When I

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Aahz
In article , Catherine Heathcote wrote: >Tim Rowe wrote: >> 2009/2/3 Jervis Whitley : >>> >>> real programmers use ed. >> >> Ed? Eee, tha' were lucky. We had to make holes in Hollerith cards wi' >> our bare teeth... > >You had teeth!?! > >Oh and hi, I shall be a new face in the crowd ;) Welcom

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Istvan Albert
On Feb 2, 12:06 pm, Thorsten Kampe wrote: > > It makes my eyes bleed > > Ever tried sunglasses? Sunglasses for bleeding eyes? For pete's sake try bandages. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Robert Kern
On 2009-02-03 12:19, Catherine Heathcote wrote: Tim Rowe wrote: 2009/2/3 Jervis Whitley : real programmers use ed. Ed? Eee, tha' were lucky. We had to make holes in Hollerith cards wi' our bare teeth... You had teeth!?! Oh and hi, I shall be a new face in the crowd ;) Welcome! -- Rober

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Steve Holden
Tim Rowe wrote: > 2009/2/3 Jervis Whitley : > >> real programmers use ed. > > Ed? Eee, tha' were lucky. We had to make holes in Hollerith cards wi' > our bare teeth... > Cards? Teeth? You were lucky! We 'ad ter stare at t'paper tape until the intensity of our gaze burned holes in it. If yer got

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread rdmurray
Quoth a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz): > In article , > Thorsten Kampe wrote: > >* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 09:29:43 -0800) > >> In article , > >> Thorsten Kampe wrote: > >>>* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 06:30:00 -0800) > In article <874ozd3cr3@benfinney.id.au>, > Ben Finney wrote: > >a...@pythonc

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Catherine Heathcote
Tim Rowe wrote: 2009/2/3 Jervis Whitley : real programmers use ed. Ed? Eee, tha' were lucky. We had to make holes in Hollerith cards wi' our bare teeth... You had teeth!?! Oh and hi, I shall be a new face in the crowd ;) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/2/3 Jervis Whitley : > real programmers use ed. Ed? Eee, tha' were lucky. We had to make holes in Hollerith cards wi' our bare teeth... -- Tim Rowe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Aahz
In article , Thorsten Kampe wrote: >* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 09:29:43 -0800) >> In article , >> Thorsten Kampe wrote: >>>* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 06:30:00 -0800) In article <874ozd3cr3@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: >a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >> >> Just to registe

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 2/1/2009 2:42 AM mcheun...@hotmail.com apparently wrote: Hi all what IDE is the best to write python? http://blog.sontek.net/2008/05/11/python-with-a-modular-ide-vim/ Alan Isaac PS Also maybe see: http://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=30 http://www.builderau.com.au

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Stef Mientki
> > > Clip Libraries are stored in simple text files. > > This is such a simple concept but is so very productive. Who needs an IDE?. > I would love to have a Linux text editor (like Scite or GEdit) that could do > this. > The code snippet manager, part of a huge IDE, but can be used as a standalo

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Marco Mariani
Russ P. wrote: highlighting. Not that it really helps much, but it "spices up" the code and stimulates the eyes and brain. When I see the same code without color highlighting, it just seems bland, like something is missing. It seems like just "text" rather than "code." Plus, it can be configur

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Russ P. (Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:18:20 -0800 (PST)) > On Feb 2, 9:09 pm, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: > > You favor bleeding eyes? > > If I am going to bleed anywhere, I'd actually prefer it be somewhere > other than the eyes. Well, maybe not the gonads either. That's a tough > call. In any cas

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-03 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 09:29:43 -0800) > In article , > Thorsten Kampe wrote: > >* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 06:30:00 -0800) > >> In article <874ozd3cr3@benfinney.id.au>, > >> Ben Finney wrote: > >>>a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > > Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax hi

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Russ P.
On Feb 2, 9:09 pm, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote: > You favor bleeding eyes? If I am going to bleed anywhere, I'd actually prefer it be somewhere other than the eyes. Well, maybe not the gonads either. That's a tough call. In any case, I use xemacs, and I've always liked color highlighting. N

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Peter Anderson
I have a "thing" about editors; a good editor is my tool of trade! I have tried many editors over the years mainly in the MS Windows, Linux and IBM mainframe environments. After all this I really like EditPlus (and the a slightly lesser extent Textpad). What both have in common is their "Clip L

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Aahz
In article <87y6woz659@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: >a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >> In article <874ozd3cr3@benfinney.id.au>, >> Ben Finney wrote: >>>a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting >>> >>>On w

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Jervis Whitley
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 07:26:24PM EST, Ben Finney wrote: >> a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >> >> > Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting >> >> On what basis? > > Real men hate syntax highlighting. > -- > http://

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Patrick Steiger
2009/2/2 Joe Riopel > I typically use vim/vi, because it's usually already installed on the > OS's I work with and vim for Windows works the same. Also, using the > same editor across these different OS's, I don't have to worry too > much soft/hard tabs. You shouldn't even think about hard tab

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Ben Finney
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > In article <874ozd3cr3@benfinney.id.au>, > Ben Finney wrote: > >a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > >> > >> Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting > > > >On what basis? > > It makes my eyes bleed Okay. I'll tick the “irrati

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Aahz
In article , Thorsten Kampe wrote: >* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 06:30:00 -0800) >> In article <874ozd3cr3@benfinney.id.au>, >> Ben Finney wrote: >>>a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting >>> >>>On what basis? >> >> It makes my

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Aahz (2 Feb 2009 06:30:00 -0800) > In article <874ozd3cr3@benfinney.id.au>, > Ben Finney wrote: > >a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > >> > >> Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting > > > >On what basis? > > It makes my eyes bleed Ever tried sunglasses? Thors

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Robert Comstock (Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:06:02 -0800 (PST)) > Why I like Vim: > [...] > 5. Can your text editor do this? > Vim search and replace, with increment > :let i=1 | g/foo/s//\=i."morestuff"/ | let i=i+1 I hope my editor wouldn't let me do this... Thorsten -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Joe Riopel
I typically use vim/vi, because it's usually already installed on the OS's I work with and vim for Windows works the same. Also, using the same editor across these different OS's, I don't have to worry too much soft/hard tabs. The contents of rc files on both Windows and UNIX/Linux are the same too

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Aahz
In article <874ozd3cr3@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: >a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: >> >> Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting > >On what basis? It makes my eyes bleed -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Robert Comstock
I am personally a fan of vim and ipython. But most of my development is done on a remote system with ssh access. I have used many IDE's over the years and personally I feel like they try to hard to do everything for you that they end up doing very little the way I would like. There are MANY text

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, >> > Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting >> >> With vim you simply don't turn it on. Would that be OK for you? > > No. Even the /possibility/ of having syntax highlighting would indicate > wimpness and thus humiliate me. Ah, I guess you are using butterflies th

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread andrew cooke
> Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting you can use it in surprising ways, if the implementation is good enough. when i used intellij with java i had the "syntax" highlighting set so that everything was simple black+white, but mutable state (i can't remember the exact

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/2/1 MattBD : > Really it depends what you are doing. Some languages are very tightly > integrated with an IDE, such as MS Visual C#, and as far as I can see > it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible to use a text > editor with that language. Why so? I don't see how it would be any

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Willi Richert
Hi, I used eclipse/pydev quite some time. What pulled me back into the arms of emacs was: - ability to save bookmarks (meaning a point in a file) at all the keystrokes. Never found out how to do that in eclipse. In emacs I have now all the times "j" save at the current working position, "f"

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Christof Donat (Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:14:25 +0100) > > Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting > > With vim you simply don't turn it on. Would that be OK for you? No. Even the /possibility/ of having syntax highlighting would indicate wimpness and thus humiliate me. Th

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20090201 15:18], Craig (fasteliteprogram...@yahoo.com) wrote: >eclipse With the pydev plugin of course. Personally I prefer to just use vim and (i)python. But at work I am using Eclipse with pydev as well. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン http://www.in

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, > Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting With vim you simply don't turn it on. Would that be OK for you? Christof -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 07:26:24PM EST, Ben Finney wrote: > a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > > > Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting > > On what basis? Real men hate syntax highlighting. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Ben Finney
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > Just to register a contrary opinion: I *hate* syntax highlighting On what basis? -- \ “The man who is denied the opportunity of taking decisions of | `\ importance begins to regard as important the decisions he is | _o__)

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Aahz
In article , MattBD wrote: > >I like Vim, that works really well for me when coding in Python. >Enable syntax highlighting and it's a great development environment. >It's a little tough at first but run vimtutor and you'll soon start to >get the hang of it. Just to register a contrary opinion: I

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Christof Donat
Hi, >> IMHO, scripting languages like Python are generally better suited to >> working with a text editor than an IDE. >> > I don't understand that, because in my opinion yields > IDE = texteditor + (much) more > please could you explain (as I'm very interested in user interfaces in > general

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Stef Mientki
thanks Matthew, for the extended answer and the great link, I'm going to study that carefully. cheers, Stef MattBD wrote: On Feb 1, 12:19 pm, Stef Mientki wrote: IMHO, scripting languages like Python are generally better suited to working with a text editor than an IDE. I don't un

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Craig
eclipse --- On Sun, 2/1/09, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: what IDE is the best to write python? To: python-list@python.org Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 3:31 AM On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:42:42 -0800 (PST), "mcheun...@hotmail.com" declaimed the fo

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread MattBD
On Feb 1, 12:19 pm, Stef Mientki wrote: > > IMHO, scripting languages like Python are generally better suited to > > working with a text editor than an IDE. > > I don't understand that, because in my opinion yields >   IDE = texteditor + (much) more > please could you explain (as I'm very interest

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Stef Mientki
IMHO, scripting languages like Python are generally better suited to working with a text editor than an IDE. I don't understand that, because in my opinion yields IDE = texteditor + (much) more please could you explain (as I'm very interested in user interfaces in general ) cheers, Stef

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread MattBD
On Feb 1, 7:42 am, "mcheun...@hotmail.com" wrote: > Hi all >    what IDE is the best to write python? > thanks > from Peter (mcheun...@hotmail.com) I like Vim, that works really well for me when coding in Python. Enable syntax highlighting and it's a great development

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread James Stroud
mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all what IDE is the best to write python? thanks from Peter (mcheun...@hotmail.com) vim in one terminal, ipython in the other. -- James Stroud UCLA-DOE Institute for Genomics and Proteomics Box 951570 Los Angeles, CA 90095 http://www.jamesstroud.com

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Matthew Sacks
Wingware IDE is pretty good. It's not free though. http://www.wingware.com/ On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:42 PM, mcheun...@hotmail.com > wrote: >> >> Hi all >> what IDE is the best to write python? &g

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:42 PM, mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote:Hi all   what IDE is the best to write python? thanks from Peter (mcheun...@hotmail.com)What OS? And define "IDE"? Do you just want an editing environment with say class browsing capabilities or do you want an integrate

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-01 Thread r
On Feb 1, 1:42 am, "mcheun...@hotmail.com" wrote: > Hi all >    what IDE is the best to write python? That's like asking boxers or briefs, everybody thinks their choice is the best. I like freedom if that gives you a hint. :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-01-31 Thread mcheun...@hotmail.com
Hi all what IDE is the best to write python? thanks from Peter (mcheun...@hotmail.com) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list