Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-11-06 Thread John Henry
"cool" is in the eyes of the beholder. While I agree that this can be useful in some situations, I find it very annoying when all I want (and need) to do is a simple dumber search and yet it tells me tons of useless searches that I don't care for. The inability to debug multi-threaded application

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-11-06 Thread SPE - Stani's Python Editor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > I have both, but the IDE I use every day is SPE, which is shareware. I'm > not savvy enough to enumerate a feature comparison, but I do find SPE > extremely friendly and intuitive. > > Gerry SPE is not shareware. It is open-source, gpl-licensed freeware. Donations ho

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-11-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Karlo Lozovina wrote: > "vj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:1162708898.962171.161120 > @e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com: > > > The embedded python shell is also a useful feature. > > Yes, but Debug Probe and Stack Data absolutely rock! Can't live without > them anymore. Just set a breakpoint, run yo

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-11-05 Thread Karlo Lozovina
"vj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:1162708898.962171.161120 @e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com: > The embedded python shell is also a useful feature. Yes, but Debug Probe and Stack Data absolutely rock! Can't live without them anymore. Just set a breakpoint, run your code end then you can inspect

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-11-04 Thread vj
Forgot to mention WING's file search and replace is pretty cool and powerful. It keeps checking changes in a different thread. If you want to change yyy in say 100 files you would: 1. specify yyy in the search window 2. A list of files get displayed with matching yyy 3. As you fix replace yyy in t

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-11-04 Thread Fuzzyman
vj wrote: > I've tried both and find WingIDE much faster than Komodo and the layout > is very well thought out. I love the way you can collapse all the > differnet panes with a few keystrokes. I also like their autocomplete > functionality. > +1 I use Wing and enjoy its auto-completion. Fuzzyma

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-11-04 Thread vj
I've tried both and find WingIDE much faster than Komodo and the layout is very well thought out. I love the way you can collapse all the differnet panes with a few keystrokes. I also like their autocomplete functionality. Wing is developed by a small company, focussed on python development, while

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-11-04 Thread gblais
I have both, but the IDE I use every day is SPE, which is shareware. I'm not savvy enough to enumerate a feature comparison, but I do find SPE extremely friendly and intuitive. Gerry -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-16 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 13 Oct 2006 17:07:56 -0700, Sandra-24 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Salerno wrote: > > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > >

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Boddie wrote: > hg wrote: > > > > Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the > > QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to > > understand the business model). > > There are snapshots of Eric4 available, apparently. See here for more: >

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-14 Thread Paul Boddie
Heikki Toivonen wrote: > Paul Boddie wrote: > > hg wrote: > >> PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was > >> "per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ? > > > > Flashbacks to the age of shareware seem to be commonplace in the realm > > of Eclipse, or

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Heikki Toivonen
Paul Boddie wrote: > hg wrote: >> PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was >> "per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ? > > Flashbacks to the age of shareware seem to be commonplace in the realm > of Eclipse, or that's how the scene seems to me.

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Heikki Toivonen
> "Eric is becoming an integral part of our Python development here at > Fluent. It's ability to set and trigger breakpoints in any thread is > unlike any other Python debugger we have tried. Through Eric's easy to > use interface and tight integration with PyQt, it has helped reduce > our debuggin

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Heikki Toivonen
> "Eric is becoming an integral part of our Python development here at > Fluent. It's ability to set and trigger breakpoints in any thread is > unlike any other Python debugger we have tried. Through Eric's easy to > use interface and tight integration with PyQt, it has helped reduce > our debuggin

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread John Salerno
John Salerno wrote: > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't > even

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Sandra-24
John Salerno wrote: > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't > even supp

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Boddie
hg wrote: > > Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the > QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to > understand the business model). There are snapshots of Eric4 available, apparently. See here for more: http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.u

Re: wing ide vs. komodo (python IDE comparison)?

2006-10-13 Thread John Salerno
Todd Whiteman wrote: > Check the following links, somebody has already done the hard work for > you :) > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments > http://spyced.blogspot.com/2006/02/pycon-python-ide-review.html > http://spyced.blogspot.com/2005/09/review-of-6-python-ides.h

Re: wing ide vs. komodo (python IDE comparison)?

2006-10-13 Thread Todd Whiteman
Check the following links, somebody has already done the hard work for you :) http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments http://spyced.blogspot.com/2006/02/pycon-python-ide-review.html http://spyced.blogspot.com/2005/09/review-of-6-python-ides.html http://www.straw-dogs.co.uk/b

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 10/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is Eric available for Windows? I have found the install files before, > but they looked like it was for Linux. You need QScintilla IIRC, but: http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3-testimonials.html "Eric is becoming an integral part of

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread hg
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are >> still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few >> of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I >> wr

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread John Salerno
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are >> still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few >> of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I >> wr

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are > still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few > of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I > wrongly thought it was on Windoze-

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread hg
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm really interested: my *small* company is ready to spend the ~300$ in >> the process, but Komodo looks _very_ sparse. >> >> How do you go about it? ... I have resources to look at it for one or >> two days. > > It's enti

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm really interested: my *small* company is ready to spend the ~300$ in > the process, but Komodo looks _very_ sparse. > > How do you go about it? ... I have resources to look at it for one or > two days. It's entirely possible you could use a free ID

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread hg
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the >> personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but >> the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. > > But that's

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread John Salerno
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the >> personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but >> the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. > > But that's

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 10/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the > personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but > the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. But that's really a good thing. -- Theerasak

Re: wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread hg
John Salerno wrote: > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't > even sup

wing ide vs. komodo?

2006-10-13 Thread John Salerno
Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them compared to one another (if you've used both). Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't even support code folding! That's a l