new to mac OS10

2005-04-14 Thread Thomas Nelson
I'm on a mac OS X (10.3.8), and I seem to have accidentally destroyed the default python installation. How should I put it on? Do I need to use the unix version? any help would be greatly appreciated. THN -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: new to mac OS10

2005-04-14 Thread Thomas Nelson
Maurice LING wrote: I'm using OSX 10.3.8 as well. Just wondering, how did you "destroy" it? What I am thinking is, it may not be as destroyed as you think it might have... cheers maurice I was actually trying to update to the newest python version, and I had read something saying it would confl

Re: new to mac OS10

2005-04-15 Thread Thomas Nelson
The main thing I would like is to be able to use tkinter with python on my mac. will the command-line-style source allow this? Does it come with IDLE? How is the fink version different from the source i can download at python.org? Here's the result of the requested commands on my Terminal.

statistical analysis tools in python?

2006-07-12 Thread Thomas Nelson
Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I couldn't find a good summary through google. What kinds of statistical analysis tools exist in python? I really just need t-tests, chi-squared test, and other such tests of statistical significance. A few things point to numpy and scipy, but I was surprised to find

Re: execute a shell script from a python script

2006-07-17 Thread Thomas Nelson
If your script is foo.sh and takes args: import subprocess subprocess.call(["foo.sh","args"],shell=True) Should work fine. check out http://www.python.org/dev/doc/maint24/lib/module-subprocess.html Enjoy, THN spec wrote: > Hi all, I know nothing about Python. What I need to do is to get a > Pyth

Re: execute a shell script from a python script

2006-07-18 Thread Thomas Nelson
As described in the docs I pointed to before: subprocess.call("foo.sh",shell=True) Is the way to do it without args. I think it is simplest to learn the subprocess module because (quoting from the docs) this module intends to replace several other, older modules and functions, such as: os.system o

Re: statistical analysis tools in python?

2006-07-18 Thread Thomas Nelson
Actually, after a little looking, the simple stats.py module at http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/Neural_Systems_Group/gary/python.html is exactly what I needed. It may not be as fast or as comprehensive as scipy or R, but installation simply involves downloading the module and importing into the cod

Re: looking for a regular expression

2006-08-01 Thread Thomas Nelson
How about my_string = "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility,.." print (x for x in my_string.split(",") if "justice" in x).next() This isn't a regular expression, but it gives what you're looking for. THN --

Re: Programming newbie coming from Ruby: a few Python questions

2006-08-03 Thread Thomas Nelson
I strongly recommend trying to come up with your own projects. Just pick small things that reflect something you actually want to do: maybe make a simple board game, or a few scripts to help you keep all your files organized, etc. Generally speaking I think it's easier to teach yourself a languag

Re: Two Classes In Two Files

2006-08-10 Thread Thomas Nelson
Perhaps __init__.py has what you're looking for? THN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just started working with Python and ran into an annoyance. Is there > a way to avoid having to use the "from xxx import yyy" syntax from > files in the same directory? I'm sure it's been asked a million times, > b

Re: Memory problem

2006-08-14 Thread Thomas Nelson
Yi Xing wrote: > On a related question: how do I initialize a list or an array with a > pre-specified number of elements, something like > int p[100] in C? I can do append() for 100 times but this looks silly... > > Thanks. > > Yi Xing Use [0]*100 for a list. THN -- http://mail.python.org/ma

Re: can I import the module twice (under differnet names)

2006-11-01 Thread Thomas Nelson
alf wrote: > Hi, > > wonder if in the python I could treat modules imorts like classes > instances. It means I could import it twice or more times under > different names. > > -- > alfz1 You can always give any object as many names as you want: >>> import sys >>> s1 = sys >>> s2 = sys >>> s1.path

Re: Python in sci/tech applications

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Nelson
How hard would it be to have numpy/ scipy part of the python standard library? Tom mattf wrote: > I've discovered Python and have been trying it out lately as a possible > replacement for computations that would ordinarily be done with a > commercial package like Matlab or IDL. I'd like to mentio

Re: calling functions style question

2006-06-06 Thread Thomas Nelson
The difference becomes clear when you import your program into another program (or the command line python editor). __name__!='__main__' when you import, so the functions will not be called if they're inside the block. This is why you see this block so often at the end of scripts; so that the scr

how can I avoid abusing lists?

2006-07-07 Thread Thomas Nelson
I have this code: type1 = [0] type2 = [0] type3 = [0] map = {0:type1, 1:type1, 2:type3, 3:type1, 4:type2} # the real map is longer than this def increment(value): map[value][0] += 1 increment(1) increment(1) increment(0) increment(4) #increment will actually be called many times through

Re: how can I avoid abusing lists?

2006-07-07 Thread Thomas Nelson
Thanks to everyone who posted. First, I don't think my question was clear enough: Rob Cowie, Ant, Simon Forman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], and Jon Ribbens offered solutions that don't quite work as-is, because I need multiple values to map to a single type. Tim Chase and Bruno Destuilliers both offer ver

Re: Best command for running shell command

2006-07-11 Thread Thomas Nelson
Yes, I highly recommend the subprocess module. subprocess.call() can do almost anything you want to do, and the options are all pretty intuitive Whenever I need to write quick scripts for myself, it's what I use. THN Roy Smith wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Donald Duck <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Non greedy regex

2006-12-14 Thread Thomas Nelson
There's an optional count argument that will give what you want. Try re.sub('a.*b','','ababc',count=1) Carsten Haese wrote: > On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 06:45 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Can someone please explain why these expressions both produce the same > > result? Surely this means that

Re: newbieee

2007-01-08 Thread Thomas Nelson
lee wrote: > I getting familiarised with python...can any one suggest me a good > editor available for python which runs on windows xpone more > request guys...can nyone tell me a good reference manual for python.. I think vim is a very good editor for python, and it's certainly available for

Trouble killing a process on windows

2007-06-02 Thread Thomas Nelson
Hi, I'd like to start a program, run it for a while, then terminate it. I can do this on linux, but I'm new to working with windows. Here's my script: from subprocess import Popen from time import sleep import win32api war3game = Popen(["C:\Program Files\Warcraft III\Frozen Throne.exe"]) sleep(30

Re: Trouble killing a process on windows

2007-06-02 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Jun 2, 11:43 am, Tim Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Nelson wrote: > > from subprocess import Popen > > from time import sleep > > import win32api > > war3game = Popen(["C:\Program Files\Warcraft III\Frozen Throne.exe"]) >

condor_compiled python interpreter

2007-07-11 Thread Thomas Nelson
Does anyone know where I could find help on condor_compiling a python interpreter? My own attempts have failed, and I can't find anything on google. Here's the condor page: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/condor/ Thanks, Tom -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Feedback on Until recipe

2007-04-24 Thread Thomas Nelson
Occasionally someone posts to this group complaining about the lack of "repeat ... until" in python. I too have occasionally wished for such a construct, and after some thinking, I came up with the class below. I'm hoping to get some feedback here, and if people besides me think they might use it

feedback on Until recipe

2007-04-24 Thread Thomas Nelson
Occasionally people post complaining about the lack of a "repeat...until" structure in python. I thought about it and came up with this recipe that I like. The only ugly thing is having to use lambdas, otherwise it's very terse and readable. Tell me what you think, and if anyone besides me think

Re: When are immutable tuples *essential*? Why can't you just use lists *everywhere* instead?

2007-04-24 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Apr 23, 10:38 pm, Mel Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neil Cerutti wrote: > > The interpreter explains it: "A list is not a hashable object." > > Choosing a hash table instead of some kind of balanced tree seems > > to be just an optimization. ;) > > Even with a balanced tree, if a key in a

Re: editing scripts on a mac

2007-04-27 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Apr 27, 11:37 am, Tommy Grav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > him> I do not have a text editor, but here are the answers to > > him> questions 1-5. > > > Now, frankly, I don't think this answer is correct, since I know OS > > X is > > a UNIX derivative, but I am loathe to involve a programming n

How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Thomas Nelson
I want to generate all the fractions between 1 and limit (with limit>1) in an orderly fashion, without duplicates. def all_ratios(limit): s = set() hi = 1.0 lo = 1.0 while True: if hi/lo not in s: s.add(hi/lo) yield (hi,lo) hi += 1 if

Re: How do I get type methods?

2007-05-04 Thread Thomas Nelson
On May 4, 7:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 4 ÍÁÊ, 09:08, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > En Fri, 04 May 2007 01:34:20 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribio: > > > I'm not against 'dir(MyClass)'; the question is, what should I 'dir()' > > > to get methods of 'pyuno' type ins

Re: Sorting troubles

2007-05-14 Thread Thomas Nelson
On May 14, 11:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have the following implementations of quicksort and insertion sort: > > def qSort(List): > if List == []: return [] > return qSort([x for x in List[1:] if x< List[0]]) + List[0:1] + \ >qSort([x for x in List[1:] if x>=List[0]]) >

Re: Combinatorial of elements in Python?

2007-08-15 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Aug 15, 8:39 am, "Sebastian Bassi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That was easy :) > What about extending it for N elements inside the dictionary? Sounds > like a work for a recursive function. Here's my attempt: [code] def backtrack(groups,position=0, answer=''): if position==len(groups)

Re: Looping through File Question

2007-09-05 Thread Thomas Nelson
> > > On Sep 5, 8:58 pm, planetmatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am a Python beginner. I am trying to loop through a CSV file which > > > > I can do. What I want to change though is for the loop to start at > > > > row 2 in the file thus excluding column headers. The DictReader object

Re: how to remove multiple occurrences of a string within a list?

2007-04-03 Thread Thomas Nelson
bahoo wrote: > Hi, > > I have a list like ['0024', 'haha', '0024'] > and as output I want ['haha'] > > If I > myList.remove('0024') > > then only the first instance of '0024' is removed. > > It seems like regular expressions is the rescue, but I couldn't find > the right tool. > > Thanks! > bahoo

Re: how to remove multiple occurrences of a string within a list?

2007-04-03 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Apr 3, 1:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Apr 3, 1:31 pm, "Matimus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It depends on your application, but a 'set' might really be what you > > want, as opposed to a list. > > > >>> s = set(["0024","haha","0024"]) > > >>> s > > > set(["0024","haha"])>>> s.remove

Trouble with max() and __cmp__()

2007-01-28 Thread Thomas Nelson
My code: class Policy(list): def __cmp__(self,other): return cmp(self.fitness,other.fitness) j = Policy() j.fitness = 3 k = Policy() k.fitness = 1 l = Policy() l.fitness = 5 print max([j,k,l]).fitness prints 3, when I was expecting it to print 5. What have I done wrong? Thanks for

Re: Trouble with max() and __cmp__()

2007-01-28 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Jan 28, 3:13 pm, Wojciech Muła <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Define method __gt__. This works, thanks. I was a little surprised though. is __cmp__ used by any builtin functions? Thanks, THN -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Sorting a List of Lists

2007-01-30 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Jan 30, 5:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I can't seem to get this nailed down and I thought I'd toss it out > there as, by gosh, its got to be something simple I'm missing. > > I have two different database tables of events that use different > schemas. I am using python to collate these reco

c++ for python programmers

2007-02-12 Thread Thomas Nelson
I realize I'm approaching this backwards from the direction most people go, but does anyone know of a good c/c++ introduction for python programmers? Thanks, Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: c++ for python programmers

2007-02-12 Thread Thomas Nelson
On Feb 12, 1:35 pm, andrew clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas, I sent you a message off-list but it bounced due to your mailbox > being full. > > Short answer: Subscribe to the c-prog@yahoogroups.com mailing list and > ask your C/C++ questions there. > > Regards > Andrew I have to edit a

Re: list/get methods/attributes of a class?

2007-02-22 Thread Thomas Nelson
Check out the dir() function. It does what you want, I think. Tom On Feb 22, 9:27 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > Sorry guys for this newbie questions. But I wonder if there is a > standard or build-in method to know the methods of a class? > > I'm not originally a progrommer and I have

Re: python about mobile game?

2006-04-20 Thread Thomas Nelson
What is a mobile game? Is it a game that can be played on a mobile phone? THN -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: modifying iterator value.

2006-04-26 Thread Thomas Nelson
There is also this way: for index in range(len(someList)): someList[index] = 1 This is not as pretty or concise as enumerate(), but if you've never seen that function before this may be more clear. I assume you're familiar with the way range and len work. THN -- http://mail.python.org/mai

Re: print names of dictionaries

2006-04-26 Thread Thomas Nelson
Here's an OO way that may do what you want: >>> class MyD(dict): ... def __init__(self,dic,rep): ... dict.__init__(self,dic) ... self.rep = rep ... def __repr__(self): ... return self.rep ... >>> apps = MyD({'alpha':1,'beta':2},'apps') >>> apps apps >>> a

Re: do while loop

2006-04-26 Thread Thomas Nelson
My usual way of emulating do-while is: started = False while (someBoolean or not started): started = True #whatever else This simply assures "whatever else" happens at least once. Is this Pythonic? THN -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: print names of dictionaries

2006-04-26 Thread Thomas Nelson
Here's an OO way that may do what you want: >>> class MyD(dict): ... def __init__(self,dic,rep): ... dict.__init__(self,dic) ... self.rep = rep ... def __repr__(self): ... return self.rep ... >>> apps = MyD({'alpha':1,'beta':2},'apps') >>> apps apps >>> a

Re: print names of dictionaries

2006-04-26 Thread Thomas Nelson
I meant something like def printdict(dictionaries=[(apps,'apps'), (dirs,'dirs'), (sites,'sites')]): for dictionary,name in dictionaries: print name keys = dictionary.keys() keys.sort() for key in keys: print key, ":

python on Mac

2006-04-05 Thread Thomas Nelson
I just purchased a new macbook (os 10.4.6), and I'm trying to install python 2.4 on it. I downloaded and ran the two installers recommended at http://www.python.org/download/mac/. Now I have IDLE, which runs 2.4.1, but typing "python" at a terminal still opens 2.3.5, because it points to /usr/bin

Re: python on Mac

2006-04-05 Thread Thomas Nelson
There is no 2.4 in my Versions folder, only 2.3 and current. Should one of the installers have created this directory? Which one? THN -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python on Mac

2006-04-05 Thread Thomas Nelson
Thanks to you both. I downloaded the dmg suggested, and trustingly typed: sudo rm /usr/bin/python sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/python And now my command line and scripts behave the way I expect. Thanks again. THN -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python on Mac

2006-04-06 Thread Thomas Nelson
Well, as I stated in post, I've already replaced the link at /usr/bin/python. I'm not clear why that's unhealthy. Should I change it back to whatever it was before? I guess maybe it was /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/python ? Thanks, THN -- http://mail.python.

Re: python on Mac

2006-04-06 Thread Thomas Nelson
Ok, I fixed my /usr/bin/python and added /usr/public/bin/ to my PATH in .profile. Everything seems ok now. Thanks again to everyone for their help. THN -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "The World's Most Maintainable Programming Language"

2006-04-09 Thread Thomas Nelson
I thought the paragraph about provability was interesting. Presumably the author refers to proofs in the spirit of "A Discipline of Programming" from Djikstra, 1976. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone has writting much about this since the 70s. I'd be interested to learn if anyone's tried to wr

mac install

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas Nelson
I downloaded the 3.1.1 dmg from http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.1.1/ but when I run it I get the error "The folowing install step failed: run postflight script for python documentation." The bugs list has this bug at http://bugs.python.org/issue6934 but it's described as fixed. Is it on