Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-23 Thread Sturla Molden
On 09.02.2012 07:51, Jun Koi wrote: 1) how serious this problem is in your opinion? is it really true that it is impossible to protect the binaries from reversing? You are probably aware that binary machine code from a C compiler can be decompiled as well (e.g. to x86 assemby). Decompiling

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-10 Thread niki
On 9.02.2012 20:41, Tim Roberts wrote: Jun Koi wrote: 1) how serious this problem is in your opinion? is it really true that it is impossible to protect the binaries from reversing? Yes. If this is an issue for you, then you should not be using an interpreted language at all. You need to

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-10 Thread Harald Armin Massa[legacy]
...decompiling protection.. the correct answer is of course put the code on a server BUT there is code that cannot reside on a server. Especially client code in a client-server-environment. Example: the dropbox client. OnlineGameClients. As much as I learned Dropbox took a quite effective

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-10 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012, Harald Armin Massa[legacy] wrote: As much as I learned Dropbox took a quite effective approach: reshuffle the Python bytecodes, compile your own Python. Rises the costs of reengeneering quite a bit. Not enough to make a difference (speaking as someone who works for a

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-10 Thread Kris Hardy
A few notes regarding intellectual property protection... If I remember correctly, Microsoft's first Commerce Server was written in Python by a company that they acquired, and Microsoft actually shipped it as .pyc files. (I may be wrong, but that's what I remember hearing). Whether or not

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-10 Thread Dietmar Schwertberger
Am 10.02.2012 09:03, schrieb niki: On 9.02.2012 20:41, Tim Roberts wrote: Yes. If this is an issue for you, then you should not be using an interpreted language at all. You need to use something that is compiled, like C++. Even compiled code can be reverse-engineered, but it's much harder.

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-09 Thread niki
On 9.02.2012 08:51, Jun Koi wrote: 3) if it is true that it is quite trivial to reverse the Python binaries, how are you currently protecting your binaries? perhaps with some obfuscated tools, making it much harder to reverse? We are using Wibu Keys for our software http://www.vintech.bg

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-09 Thread Aahz
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012, Jun Koi wrote: sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but i think many people here must have the same concern, and have to cope with it somehow. my concern is that: even if the binary is without the source, the code is still Python bytecode. and as far as i am aware, it is

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-09 Thread StoneBeat
Check this http://www.depython.com/ :) On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Jun Koi junkoi2...@gmail.com wrote: hi, sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but i think many people here must have the same concern, and have to cope with it somehow. i am developing a Windows project using Python. the

Re: [python-win32] Anti-reverse Python-based binaries?

2012-02-09 Thread Tim Roberts
Jun Koi wrote: sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but i think many people here must have the same concern, and have to cope with it somehow. i am developing a Windows project using Python. the final executable file .EXE and its libs will be generated with py2exe. my concern is that: even if