Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 5, 2005, at 9:55 PM, has wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: It makes /usr/bin/python depend on another executable at a specific location on the filesystem, Would it be possible to keep /usr/bin/python as a full-fledged interpreter while adding to it the ability to automatically start a second int

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread has
Bob Ippolito wrote: It makes /usr/bin/python depend on another executable at a specific location on the filesystem, Would it be possible to keep /usr/bin/python as a full-fledged interpreter while adding to it the ability to automatically start a second interpreter at a known location when neede

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 5, 2005, at 9:17 PM, has wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: It is not possible to solve this problem without changing the way Python gets installed (making /usr/bin/python a fork-exec stub or shell script) Any reason for not doing that then? Eliminating this wart would be good. It would break bund

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread has
Bob Ippolito wrote: It is not possible to solve this problem without changing the way Python gets installed (making /usr/bin/python a fork-exec stub or shell script) Any reason for not doing that then? Eliminating this wart would be good. It would break bundlebuilder's --standalone option, probably

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 5, 2005, at 2:26 PM, has wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: > Are there any plans to remove this apparently unnecessary > dichotomy? It is not possible to solve this problem without changing the way Python gets installed (making /usr/bin/python a fork-exec stub or shell script) Any reason for not

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: [Matplotlib-users] matplotlib OS-X binary problems.

2005-02-05 Thread Robert Kern
Chris Barker wrote: Robert Kern wrote: Change the paths that distutils will add to the link line. They're at the top of setupext.py . Remove the ones you don't need. Except that the *.a and *.dylib are put in the same place. Darn. Copy (and re-ranlib) the static library and headers to another pl

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread has
Bob Ippolito wrote: > Are there any plans to remove this apparently unnecessary > dichotomy? It is not possible to solve this problem without changing the way Python gets installed (making /usr/bin/python a fork-exec stub or shell script) Any reason for not doing that then? Eliminating this wart

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread Roger Binns
As far as I know, other platforms do not have this problem. Windows does. Windows has the idea of subsystems (eg OS/2, Posix, Win32). Pretty much only win32 is used these days. Win32 apps can be marked as console or gui. However console apps can also do gui stuff. So PythonW is used to run gui

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 5, 2005, at 12:08 PM, Chris Fonnesbeck wrote: Sorry in advance for what may, in fact, be a naive post, but I am trying to figure out the significance of pythonw on OSX. I know that you need to run pythonw if you intend to use python programs with certain graphical backends, otherwise the UI

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] fink vs DarwinPorts?

2005-02-05 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 5, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Michael Twomey wrote: On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:21:15 -0500, Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another reason is that it is based on the debian apt packaging system, so you have a very controlled build environment. Their .info package descriptions are succint and it

[Pythonmac-SIG] pythonw

2005-02-05 Thread Chris Fonnesbeck
Sorry in advance for what may, in fact, be a naive post, but I am trying to figure out the significance of pythonw on OSX. I know that you need to run pythonw if you intend to use python programs with certain graphical backends, otherwise the UI becomes unresponsive. Running idle from the command l

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] fink vs DarwinPorts?

2005-02-05 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 5, 2005, at 6:27 AM, Michael Twomey wrote: On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:57:01 +0100, Piet van Oostrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Brett C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (BC) wrote: BC> Russell E. Owen wrote: I've seen a lot of discussion lately about fink and darwinports and I'm wondering if folks who h

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] fink vs DarwinPorts?

2005-02-05 Thread Michael Twomey
Funny, I generally prefer fink precisely because it uses /sw. It keeps itself neatly inside /sw (source, intermediate build, final installation). For a unix head like myself I couldn't ask any more. I generally dislike a packaging system using /usr/local instead of their own prefix, as it is almost

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] fink vs DarwinPorts?

2005-02-05 Thread Piet van Oostrum
> "Brett C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (BC) wrote: >BC> Russell E. Owen wrote: >>> I've seen a lot of discussion lately about fink and darwinports and I'm >>> wondering if folks who have experience with either can comment on their >>> relative merits? >>> >BC> I personally have run Fink in the pas