Fw: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Roger Binns
Taking a step back, am I the only person who thinks the Python situation on Mac is absolutely ridiculous, although 10.2 looks better than 10.3. As Bob says, you obviously haven't used 10.2... Correct. I don't want to disparage the improvements that have been made, but the situation as it stands ri

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2005-02-23 Thread Charles Hartman
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Just van Rossum wrote: Michael Hudson wrote: If you want your Python app to work in perpetuity, you'd better bundle a version of Python with it because one day OS X will presumably come with 2.4 or 2.5. This strikes me as being the same as any other platform. I would _

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Just van Rossum
Michael Hudson wrote: > If you want your Python app to work in perpetuity, you'd better bundle > a version of Python with it because one day OS X will presumably come > with 2.4 or 2.5. This strikes me as being the same as any other > platform. I would _hope_ they'd still keep 2.3(.X) in there f

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Michael Hudson
"Roger Binns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Taking a step back, am I the only person who thinks the Python situation > on Mac is absolutely ridiculous, although 10.2 looks better than 10.3. As Bob says, you obviously haven't used 10.2... > All I want is one up to date version of Python on my sys

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Kevin Dangoor wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: I probably won't be able to look at this until tomorrow, but try comparing sys.modules.keys() between your environment with py2app -A and py2app. in getRunLoop, I added print sys.modules.keys() and then ran the Web Services T

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Roger Binns wrote: And in the thread on setting PATH, that is exactly what I need to do since the code is cross platform. Not really, the only point that matters is when you run "python setup.py py2app". It doesn't matter what the #! line is in your main script or s

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Roger Binns
Technically there is on many HP/Compaq machines :-) But is that runtime actually "accessible", or is it stashed away in a dark corner? Very acessible. It definitely starts out as a standard install from python.org and is in the Add/Remove programs in the same way. And in the thread on setting PAT

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Bob Ippolito wrote: I probably won't be able to look at this until tomorrow, but try comparing sys.modules.keys() between your environment with py2app -A and py2app. in getRunLoop, I added print sys.modules.keys() and then ran the Web Services Tool with and without -A. Without -A (normal standa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Kevin Dangoor wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:18, Kevin Dangoor wrote: In Python, I have narrowed this down to here: cfreactor.CFReactor.getRunLoop runLoop = nsRunLoop.getCFRunLoop() Do the PyObjC Examples/Twisted examples work in

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:18, Kevin Dangoor wrote: In Python, I have narrowed this down to here: cfreactor.CFReactor.getRunLoop runLoop = nsRunLoop.getCFRunLoop() Do the PyObjC Examples/Twisted examples work in your environment? I tried WebServicesTool and had m

[Pythonmac-SIG] traceback from build_app.py in py2app 0.1.8

2005-02-23 Thread John Gleeson
The current svn version of py2app gives the following traceback. My Feb 7 copy of py2app invoked self.copy_versioned_framework(info, dst) instead of copy_versioned_framework(info, dst) : copying build/bdist.darwin-7.8.0-Power_Macintosh/python2.3-semi_standalone/app/ site-packages.zip ->

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Tkinter package?

2005-02-23 Thread Dave Opstad
>> If the older package repositories are now unmaintained, how would one >> install the Tkinter module? > > The one that's up there should still work, it's not something that's > really going to be updated anyway. It still doesn't work, sorta. There was traffic on this list back on November 23 re

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:18, Kevin Dangoor wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:08, Kevin Dangoor wrote: For a few reasons, I am moving my app to Python 2.4. It runs fine when I use py2app -A, but it doesn't work when I try to build a full standalone application. At first, "doesn't work

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:08, Kevin Dangoor wrote: For a few reasons, I am moving my app to Python 2.4. It runs fine when I use py2app -A, but it doesn't work when I try to build a full standalone application. At first, "doesn't work" meant that Twisted's cfreactor couldn't find

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:08, Kevin Dangoor wrote: For a few reasons, I am moving my app to Python 2.4. It runs fine when I use py2app -A, but it doesn't work when I try to build a full standalone application. At first, "doesn't work" meant that Twisted's cfreactor couldn't find

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:08, Kevin Dangoor wrote: For a few reasons, I am moving my app to Python 2.4. It runs fine when I use py2app -A, but it doesn't work when I try to build a full standalone application. At first, "doesn't work" meant that Twisted's cfreactor couldn't find _CarbonEvt. If I spe

[Pythonmac-SIG] trouble making a standalone app with Python 2.4

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Dangoor
For a few reasons, I am moving my app to Python 2.4. It runs fine when I use py2app -A, but it doesn't work when I try to build a full standalone application. At first, "doesn't work" meant that Twisted's cfreactor couldn't find _CarbonEvt. If I specifically ask to include _CarbonEvt, I get a b

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 8:13, Markus Weissmann wrote: On 23. Feb 2005, at 8:39 Uhr, Roger Binns wrote: I actually can't see *any* benefit to me at all of Apple's Python. Are there any instructions anywhere on how to remove Apple's version, and put on an official Python.org blessed version and ensure th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Tkinter package?

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 8:15, Kevin Walzer wrote: If the older package repositories are now unmaintained, how would one install the Tkinter module? The one that's up there should still work, it's not something that's really going to be updated anyway. -bob

[Pythonmac-SIG] Tkinter package?

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If the older package repositories are now unmaintained, how would one install the Tkinter module? - -- Cheers, Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.co

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Markus Weissmann
On 23. Feb 2005, at 8:39 Uhr, Roger Binns wrote: I actually can't see *any* benefit to me at all of Apple's Python. Are there any instructions anywhere on how to remove Apple's version, and put on an official Python.org blessed version and ensure the latter resides somewhere on my path? If you don'

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Why do I need PantherPythonFix?

2005-02-23 Thread Michael Hudson
"Chris Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bob Ippolito wrote: >> I also rarely screw with PATH. Using /usr/bin/env is saying "let >> PATH decide". > > right. I am always working across platforms, so I want to specify > which python to use, but not specify where to find it. If you use distuti

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Versions, Frameworks, Linking, PantherPythonFix

2005-02-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 23, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Roger Binns wrote: There is no vendor Python on Windows, so py2exe can make no such distinction. Technically there is on many HP/Compaq machines :-) But is that runtime actually "accessible", or is it stashed away in a dark corner? And in the thread on setting PATH,