[Pythonmac-SIG] MySQL-python build instructions

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
I've built MySQL-python, go fetch it from http://pythonmac.org/packages/ Note that it fails three of the tests it ships with, I don't know why, and I don't really care. I've never trusted MySQL-python, for reasons like this, but people seem to use it anyway. If you need/want to build it yoursel

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python documentation in PythonIDE--for Lee Cullens

2005-04-04 Thread Robert Kern
Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:01 AM, Robert Kern wrote: Lee Cullens wrote: I try not to get too far off on a tangent, but little things like this are good learning exercises and you have shortened the time it will take me to get through it. Allow me to shorten it further: Look in Mac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python documentation in PythonIDE--for Lee Cullens

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:01 AM, Robert Kern wrote: Lee Cullens wrote: I try not to get too far off on a tangent, but little things like this are good learning exercises and you have shortened the time it will take me to get through it. Allow me to shorten it further: Look in Mac/OSX/Doc of the sour

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:34 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: You may be interested in this article: http://programming.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/29/0747230 Cameron Laird writes: It's worth noting that Cameron Laird (who I'm sure is a perfectly nice guy) is an old-time Python fan already (as am I); take

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bill Janssen
> You may be interested in this article: > http://programming.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/29/0747230 > > Cameron Laird writes: It's worth noting that Cameron Laird (who I'm sure is a perfectly nice guy) is an old-time Python fan already (as am I); take his pronouncements with a grain of sa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python documentation in PythonIDE--for Lee Cullens

2005-04-04 Thread Roger Binns
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Conceptual/ProvidingUserAssitAppleHelp/user_help_intro/chapter_1_section_1.html Basically, you need to add some tags to the index page, run Apple's help indexing tool over the help directory, and put it in the right place in the app bundle. I've packa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python documentation in PythonIDE--for Lee Cullens

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
On Apr 4, 2005, at 11:46 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote: Lee, If the code to actually look for the Python documentation is already in PythonIDE (even as a hack), then it sounds like the only thing that's missing is the documentation itself. That is what I tried to say and I'm glad you understood it. Someon

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] new Python & wxPython

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
Bob, Thanks for clarifying the point before I had an issue with such. Thought I tried this before but I just tried to import wxPython from 2.3 and 2. 4 and such only worked in 2.3 %) So, I'll just move the 2.5.4.1 binaries I downloaded over to 2.3 also. You saved me some more head banging. T

[Pythonmac-SIG] Python documentation in PythonIDE--for Lee Cullens

2005-04-04 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lee, If the code to actually look for the Python documentation is already in PythonIDE (even as a hack), then it sounds like the only thing that's missing is the documentation itself. Someone prepared an Apple Help Book of the Python2.3 docs that could

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
Thomas, Thanks, that is an interesting article. I sent it along to a corporate client I do occasional work for (paid for my G5 playground). I'm apprehensive about Microsoft involvement though because they can muddy up the waters badly with their excessive greed. Just like I'd be apprehensive

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] new Python & wxPython

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 11:00 PM, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:20 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:12 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: Probably everybody else knows this already, but I'll mention that under OS 10.3.8 I'm now happily run

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] new Python & wxPython

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
Forgot to mention I installed both the ansi and unicode binaries of each (because didn't know what I needed) and all four play well so far. On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Lee Cullens wrote: I had the wxPython 2.5.3.1 binary in /Applications/Python-2.3/Extras/wxPythonExtras and when I installed

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] new Python & wxPython

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
I had the wxPython 2.5.3.1 binary in /Applications/Python-2.3/Extras/wxPythonExtras and when I installed Bob's new 2.4 Python I downloaded the new 2.5.4.1 wxPython binary and installed it in /Applications/Python-2.4/Extras/wxPythonExtras. With what little I've done with it yet the setup seems

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Juntunen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/05, Lee Cullens imposed order on a stream of electrons to say: > Personally I think these little package idiosyncrasies are what > discourage non-hacker users and businesses that might otherwise > advance the use of Python, to the benefit o

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] new Python & wxPython

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:20 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:12 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: Probably everybody else knows this already, but I'll mention that under OS 10.3.8 I'm now happily running Python 2.4.1 with wxPython 2.5.4.1. (I

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] new Python & wxPython

2005-04-04 Thread Charles Hartman
If I thought I knew enough to do it properly I'd do it happily. I like the combination very much, and I certainly agree it would be nice if it were easier to put together. Of course, Robin D does put together .dmg binaries from time to time; there just isn't one yet for wxPython 2.5.4. I don't

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] new Python & wxPython

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:12 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: Probably everybody else knows this already, but I'll mention that under OS 10.3.8 I'm now happily running Python 2.4.1 with wxPython 2.5.4.1. (I had a hard time getting wxPython built -- wouldn't have gotten it at all without lots of help from

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 16:13, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote: One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonID

[Pythonmac-SIG] new Python & wxPython

2005-04-04 Thread Charles Hartman
Probably everybody else knows this already, but I'll mention that under OS 10.3.8 I'm now happily running Python 2.4.1 with wxPython 2.5.4.1. (I had a hard time getting wxPython built -- wouldn't have gotten it at all without lots of help from Robin Dunn -- but anyone who knew what he or she wa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 16:13, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote: One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 16:13, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote: One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup in Python Documentation" are dimmed out (not a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
Personally I think these little package idiosyncrasies are what discourage non-hacker users and businesses that might otherwise advance the use of Python, to the benefit of those that have enough experience and skills to prepare and maintain a presentable tool - but we all have a perfect right

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote: One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup in Python Documentation" are dimmed out (not available). Such in the 2.3 PythonIDE is still available though. This time I did look in the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
Bob, One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup in Python Documentation" are dimmed out (not available). Such in the 2.3 PythonIDE is still available though. This time I did look in the Mac Python FAQ first, but the suggestio

RE: [Pythonmac-SIG] XML handler design

2005-04-04 Thread Henning.Ramm
>If you want a cleaner coder, you give might one of the more "pythonic" >XML APIs, like ElementTree or XIST a try. > >ElementTree: http://effbot.org/zone/element-index.htm >XIST: http://www.livinglogic.de/Python/xist/ Thank you for this links - lots of interesting stuff there that I didn't know.