Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Discussion of Python IDE's: strengths and weaknesses (long)

2005-07-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | | An aside on Tk on OS X: poke around here to see some of the Tcl/Tk work | being done for native theming on OS X: | http://tktable.sourceforge.net/tile/screenshots/macosx.html | | This work will be going into *Tcl* 8.5 (its next release). I'm n

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Discussion of Python IDE's: strengths and weaknesses (long)

2005-07-06 Thread Trent Mick
[Gary Poster wrote] > On the other platforms Komodo supports, I'm pretty sure they use > Mozilla Gecko. I would expect the same on the Mac...but Trent's on > this list now, and he'd know for sure. :-) That's right: Komodo on OS X uses the Mozilla/Gecko runtime, which effective means that Komo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Can MacPython 2.4.1 and Tiger's Python co-exist

2005-07-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, you can install Macpython 2.4.1 and wxPython 2.6 separately from what ships with Apple. The Apple stuff in in /System/Frameworks. They will never see each other. I also use your strategy of developing with Python 2.4.1/wxPython 2.6 and testing/de

[Pythonmac-SIG] Can MacPython 2.4.1 and Tiger's Python co-exist

2005-07-06 Thread Derek Lee-Wo
I want to be able to create wxPython apps that can run on Tiger out of the box. That is, using the version of Python and wxWidgets that ship with Tiger. I also want to try Boa Constructor, but it requires MacPython 2.4.1 and wxWdigets 2.6.X Can I insall the latest MacPython and wxWidgets, but ha

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Discussion of Python IDE's: strengths and weaknesses (long)

2005-07-06 Thread Gary Poster
On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:27 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote: > I plan to try > Komodo when it arrives, but if it's written using Tcl/Tk then I worry > that it won't be great on the Mac. Aqua Tcl/Tk has many cosmetic bugs > that don't show any sign of getting fixed. On the other platforms Komodo supports,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Discussion of Python IDE's: strengths and weaknesses (long)

2005-07-06 Thread Russell E. Owen
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wolfgang's question has prompted me to think more generally about each > Python IDE for OS Xthat has been discussed > 4. WingIDE: Wing is a (rather expensive) commercial IDE, and as you > should expect, it doesn't ha

[Pythonmac-SIG] [ANN] PyObjC 1.3.7

2005-07-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren
I've just uploaded PyObjC 1.3.7. This is a minor upgrade to PyObjC and features support for Xcode 2.1 in the Xcode templates, several new and improved framework wrappers, the port to Intel as well as some (minor) bugfixes. The new release can be downloaded from http:// pyobjc.sourceforge.net

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Discussion of Python IDE's: strengths and weaknesses (long)

2005-07-06 Thread Dethe Elza
Hi Kevin, Thanks for that summary. Testing out all of these various IDEs has been on my to-do list for a long time, but I never seem to get around to it (I rely on vim and TextWrangler for most of my coding needs). It's very helpful to have a good summary of the features and status of th

[Pythonmac-SIG] Discussion of Python IDE's: strengths and weaknesses (long)

2005-07-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Wolfgang, - --- Riaan Booysen wrote: | | Kevin's comments here relate to an incorrect way in which subprocesses | were launced under OS X for those IDEs. | Riaan makes a good point here. Geoff Canyon offered a very useful hint on configuring the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] More on init

2005-07-06 Thread Dethe Elza
This works for me: from Foundation import * from AppKit import * from PyObjCTools import NibClassBuilder, AppHelper jabberwocky = '''Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe all mimsy were the borogroves and the mome raths outgrabe''' class SpeechDelegate(NSObject):

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Stability of (I)DEs, particularly WingIDE? (Re: Re: ANN: Boa Constructor for OS X available)

2005-07-06 Thread Chinook
Wolfgang Keller wrote: Hello, I have yet to encounter a Python editor on the Mac that does this gracefully. Eric3, Spe, PyOxide,and now Boa--they all crash at times, and sometimes all the time, when trying to eval/debug scripts. To be perfectly honest, when it

[Pythonmac-SIG] Stability of (I)DEs, particularly WingIDE? (Re: [Boa Constr] Re: ANN: Boa Constructor for OS X available)

2005-07-06 Thread Wolfgang Keller
Hello, > I have yet to encounter a Python editor on the Mac that does this > gracefully. Eric3, Spe, PyOxide,and now Boa--they all crash at times, > and sometimes all the time, when trying to eval/debug scripts. > To be perfectly honest, when it comes to the eval/debug cycle, Emacs + > terminal i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] More on init

2005-07-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jul 4, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Aldo Bergamini wrote: > An update on my fiddling: > > > > > from Foundation import * > from AppKit import * > > > from PyObjCTools import NibClassBuilder > > class PySayTextAppDelegate(NibClassBuilder.AutoBaseClass): > #IB defined outlets > #textField

[Pythonmac-SIG] More on init

2005-07-06 Thread Aldo Bergamini
An update on my fiddling: from Foundation import * from AppKit import * from PyObjCTools import NibClassBuilder class PySayTextAppDelegate(NibClassBuilder.AutoBaseClass): #IB defined outlets #textField #speechSynthetizer # #IB defined actions #sayI