Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Just van Rossum
Marcin Komorowski wrote: > > (...) since the only part of the Xcode tool chain I use for Python/ > > ObjC development is Interface Builder. > > > > Hey Daniel, > > What do you than use for your Python/ObjC development on a Mac? TextMate + Terminal + py2app. Oh wait, my name's not Daniel. Never

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Daniel Lord
On May 16, 2006, at 17:43, Marcin Komorowski wrote: > > What do you than use for your Python/ObjC development on a Mac? Honestly, I use BBEdit as the overall text editor and I test complex Python non-GUI modules as 'stand-alone' modules using Komodo Professional (great debugger) or if they a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Marcin Komorowski
On 16-May-06, at 10:42 PM, Zachery Bir wrote: > On May 16, 2006, at 10:27 PM, Marcin Komorowski wrote: > >> What about PyOXIDE or just outright Eclipse? > > Never used either. I just don't work too well inside an IDE. Hehe... I know what you mean. I have been using VIM for all of my coding (a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Saggau
I've had some success editing the custom build command in Xcode under the Project -> Edit Active TargetBuild Tool: /usr/bin/envArguments: python2.3 "$(SOURCE_ROOT)/setup.py" py2app --aliasThis gives me python2.3 when I want to go that route.  I usually don't need it to use python2.3 now that I've

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Zachery Bir
On May 16, 2006, at 10:27 PM, Marcin Komorowski wrote: > What about PyOXIDE or just outright Eclipse? Never used either. I just don't work too well inside an IDE. Zac ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Marcin Komorowski
What about PyOXIDE or just outright Eclipse? Marcin On 16-May-06, at 9:50 PM, Zachery Bir wrote: > On May 16, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Marcin Komorowski wrote: > >>> (...) since the only part of the Xcode tool chain I use for Python/ >>> ObjC development is Interface Builder. >> >> Hey Daniel, >> >> Wha

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Zachery Bir
On May 16, 2006, at 8:43 PM, Marcin Komorowski wrote: >> (...) since the only part of the Xcode tool chain I use for Python/ >> ObjC development is Interface Builder. > > Hey Daniel, > > What do you than use for your Python/ObjC development on a Mac? Can't speak for Daniel, but I do all my develo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building Numeric or Numpy Universal

2006-05-16 Thread Robert Brown
Never mind... I was apparently too quick to hit the send button.  I discovered Bob's article on the state of Universal Python and the note to make sure you install the Universal SDK.  That fixes things.On 16-May-06, at 5:42 PM, Robert Brown wrote:I've installed the universal Python on my Macbook Pr

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Marcin Komorowski
> (...) since the only part of the Xcode tool chain I use for Python/ > ObjC development is Interface Builder. > Hey Daniel, What do you than use for your Python/ObjC development on a Mac? Thanks, Marcin ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@py

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Application without py2app?

2006-05-16 Thread Thorsten Kohnhorst
Hello Chris, > Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> The best solution would be to teach SPE about application bundles, >> but I don't know how hard that would be. > > I'm confused. Do you need to run PyObjC apps from within a bundle? Why > not debug by running your scripts with pythonw, like we all do for >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Daniel Lord
On May 16, 2006, at 16:00, Bill Janssen wrote: >>> OK, I think I will read the FAQ cover-to-cover so to speak before >>> asking another question :). >> >> Now _that's_ good Mac Python Community citizenship. > > Of course, it's a Wiki, so the next question is: Have you read it > lately? > > Bil

[Pythonmac-SIG] Building Numeric or Numpy Universal

2006-05-16 Thread Robert Brown
I've installed the universal Python on my Macbook Pro... now I want to build either (preferably both) Numeric and Numpy.  I tried "python setup.py build" but I get errors.  It looks like all the standard C/++ includes aren't found, including stdio.h.Building a hello world program works fine.  Any i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Bill Janssen
> > OK, I think I will read the FAQ cover-to-cover so to speak before > > asking another question :). > > Now _that's_ good Mac Python Community citizenship. Of course, it's a Wiki, so the next question is: Have you read it lately? Bill ___ Pythonmac-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Daniel Lord
On May 16, 2006, at 5:49, Marcin Komorowski wrote: > Thanks Thorsten. > > OK, I think I will read the FAQ cover-to-cover so to speak before > asking another question :). Now _that's_ good Mac Python Community citizenship. Nice to know some will actually read all that hard work of so many. Than

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Daniel Lord
On May 16, 2006, at 9:52, Christopher Barker wrote: > Isn't there a way to tell XCode specifically what python you want > it to > use? I don't use XCode, so I have no idea. Since my impression is the XCode 'philosophy' to design it as a tool 'shell' using scripting to leverage command-line

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Application without py2app?

2006-05-16 Thread Christopher Barker
Ronald Oussoren wrote: > The best solution would be to teach SPE about application bundles, > but I don't know how hard that would be. I'm confused. Do you need to run PyObjC apps from within a bundle? Why not debug by running your scripts with pythonw, like we all do for non-gui programs, wxP

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Christopher Barker
Thorsten Kohnhorst wrote: > Marcin Komorowski wrote: >> how do I make XCode use python 2.4? > I am not sure if it is the best and only solution, but I used the method > described here: > > http://pythonmac.org/wiki/FAQ#head-30475a182e1542629d526567e3799ce8463517e6 but that sets user-wide enviro

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Christopher Barker
Marcin Komorowski wrote: > It could be argued that if there are version > dependent scripts in OSX they really should use /usr/bin/python23 to > ensure the correct version of the interpreter. Yes, it could, and has, and it's a strong argument. > However, I will > agree, that it would not be

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Marcin Komorowski
Thanks Thorsten. OK, I think I will read the FAQ cover-to-cover so to speak before asking another question :). Cheers, Marcin On 16-May-06, at 5:04 AM, Thorsten Kohnhorst wrote: > Marcin Komorowski wrote: >> Daniel, I did let the installer put python 2.4 binaries in /usr/ >> local/ bin and I

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] InstallApplicationEventHandler and/or InstallEventHandler

2006-05-16 Thread has
don bright wrote: >I'm trying to detect when a process starts/stops. I'm >contemplating this excellent example from Apple, >'observing process lifetimes without polling' > >http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn2050.html > >However, it uses a function called >InstallApplicationEventHandler. I

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Status of PyObjC port to Intel OS X

2006-05-16 Thread Thorsten Kohnhorst
Marcin Komorowski wrote: > Daniel, I did let the installer put python 2.4 binaries in /usr/local/ > bin and I can change the path in my shell strartup script to pull in > the 2.4 binary, but how do I make XCode use python 2.4? I am not sure if it is the best and only solution, but I used the met