Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Which version to use??

2010-05-25 Thread Rodney Somerstein
At 10:08 PM +0200 5/25/10, Ronald Oussoren wrote: Python 3.1.2 works fine on OSX. There is an issue with building extensions on OSX 10.6, but that will be fixed in 3.1.3. PyObjC in the repository works with python 3 and I'm working towards a release. I haven't looked into py2app yet. With some

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Which version to use??

2010-05-25 Thread Rodney Somerstein
At 11:17 AM -0700 5/25/10, Christopher Barker wrote: Honestly, I don't know if the Mac is in any poorer position with regard to Python 3 as any other platform. NONE of the major packages I use have been ported to Py3 on any platform: numpy, SciPy, wxPython. Many of those are well supported on

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Which version to use??

2010-05-25 Thread Rodney Somerstein
On Tuesday, May 24, 2010, Aahz wrote: If you care about the Mac (particularly in terms of being able to use PyObjC and/or py2app), stick with 2.x for now. Otherwise, it doesn't matter much which exact version of 3.x you use. This brings up a question for me as to what the state of Python is on

[Pythonmac-SIG] Status of Python 3.0 for Mac?

2008-12-14 Thread Rodney Somerstein
Given the recent release of Python 3.0, I've been surprised to see no mention of a Mac release of this. Is anyone working on an official release? If so, is there an expected release date? Thanks, -Rodney ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@p

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE and MacPython 2.5

2006-10-27 Thread Rodney Somerstein
h, IDLE is working for me again and I'm happily testing various commands and testing out answers to the end of section questions in Learning Python. -Rodney -- Rodney SomersteinAlways remember that you are unique... [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE and MacPython 2.5

2006-10-26 Thread Rodney Somerstein
gt;>Eclipse >>SPE >>Jedit >>ScrIDE >> >> >>Assorted *nix editors: emaca, VIm, etc, etc. >> >>or look here: >> >>http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors >> >>-Chris -- Rodney SomersteinAlways remember that

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE and MacPython 2.5

2006-10-25 Thread Rodney Somerstein
Ronald Oussoren wrote: >Could you open Console.app, clear the log and then try to start IDLE >again? Hopefully IDLE runs into a problem that gets written to the >console log. Here is what I see when I double-click on IDLE: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/MacPython 2.

[Pythonmac-SIG] IDLE and MacPython 2.5

2006-10-25 Thread Rodney Somerstein
, it is definitely more convenient to just double-click. I am using IDLE because I have been working my way through the O'Reilly Learning Python book at a glacial pace over the last year or more and it is nice to have a simple Python-aware interactive editor. -Rodney -- Rodney Somer

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recurring question - which python should I use?

2006-03-14 Thread Rodney Somerstein
(Lots of stuff about non-Universal builds of stuff and other comments from various people removed...) Luckily for me, I'm still a good ways away from needing to actually create a standalone app. That is just my ultimate goal. If there isn't a universal build of py2app by the time that I'm ready

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recurring question - which python should I use?

2006-03-14 Thread Rodney Somerstein
Thanks for your extensive answer, Bob. I will definitely go with the universal build given what you have said, just to facilitate getting help with any problems I run into. As for py2app not working with that yet, I'm still a long way from having anything ready to package anyway, so that isn't

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recurring question - which python should I use?

2006-03-14 Thread Rodney Somerstein
Thanks for the answer, Bob, and thanks for the work on the Universal build, Ronald. If someone could answer my other questions as well, I would really appreciate it. As a beginner, what does having a working readline actually mean to me? If I'm not building command line apps do I need that for

[Pythonmac-SIG] Recurring question - which python should I use?

2006-03-14 Thread Rodney Somerstein
As the title of this message asks, which Python should I use? And why? From following discussions here, I know why I don't want to use the built in Apple Python. So, that leaves 2 choices that both seem good, the macpython framework build and ActiveState. The main reason that I would want to u

[Pythonmac-SIG] Bad download link on python.org

2006-03-14 Thread Rodney Somerstein
I didn't notice anyone mentioning this on previous discussions, but currently, if you click the download link on the left side of the main python.org site, it takes you to a page that states this about the Mac version of Python: Python 2.3 OS X 10.2 installer (requires admin privileges -- see

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-10 Thread Rodney Somerstein
At 11:58 AM -0800 2/10/06, Christopher Barker wrote: >Rodney Somerstein wrote: >>. It would be really nice to have a more basic introduction to what >>py2app actually does. > >Why don't you write that, put it in the Wiki, then ask this list for >technical review. Tha

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-10 Thread Rodney Somerstein
At 9:51 AM -0800 2/10/06, Bill Janssen wrote: >The problem is that there are many kinds of "new users". > This is true. The trick, in my view, is to make sure to define terms when they are first used. That way, the actual beginners have a chance of following along and the more experienced "new u

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-09 Thread Rodney Somerstein
At 1:39 PM -0800 2/9/06, Bill Janssen wrote: >Great idea, Rodney. I think we probably need a number of pages like >this, kind of an FAQ set. I think the main page should just cover one >or two things (how to run python, how to upgrade), and lots of >pointers to these pages. Each of these should

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-09 Thread Rodney Somerstein
At 1:20 PM -0800 2/9/06, Bob Ippolito wrote: >py2app is the solution for application packaging, and you must use >it with a third party Python installation (e.g. Python 2.4.1) in >order to come up with something that's redistributable and robust. >If you happen to use the system Python, then

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] My stab at a new page

2006-02-09 Thread Rodney Somerstein
At 8:29 PM -0800 2/8/06, Bill Janssen wrote: >I've made up a sample page, at >http://bill.janssen.org/new-macpython-page.html. > >This is the kind of thing I'd like to see replace the page at >http://www.python.org/download/download_mac.html. Bill, As the sort of somewhat sophisticated novice py