appears ahead of my
other locations:
% type -a python
python is /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/python
python is /Users/skip/local/bin/python
python is /usr/local/bin/python
python is /usr/bin/python
You almost certainly *don't* want it to replace /
hers more knowledgeable about Python-on-a-Mac will correct any
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release of a series doesn't include the ".0".
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Google? Searching for:
site:mail.python.org Break on
__THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__()
to debug.
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can't find a version of XCode which works with Mac OS X 10.5. All Apple will
show me on their dev site is XCode 3.2 which requires Snow Leopard. I can't
build a dang thing - no make or gcc for instance.
Any pointers appreciated.
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-L suggests that the only dylib files
required are libgcc_s and libSystem, both in /usr/lib. Are you missing some
header files perhaps?
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Testing a change to the footer. You can ignore.
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gt; while i < 3:
... print some_list[i], ";"
... i = i + 1
...
6 ;
2 ;
>>> print some_list[3]
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America's vaunted "free press" notwithstanding, story ideas that expose
the
Mark> Having done this, how do I package things up to transfer them to
Mark> the iBook? What files need to be transferred?
If this is a one-time thing I would use brute force and tar up the entire
source directory and put it over on your g4.
> You're building a 2.7? what is that? I thought Python was going from 2.6 to
> 3.0.
Building from Subversion trunk identifies itself as 2.7a0. There will
be a number of
other 2.x versions released more-or-less in parallel with 3.y vers
(most recent call last):
File "/Users/skip/.python.py", line 21, in ?
from save_session import mark, save, load
File "/Users/skip/misc/python/save_session.py", line 21, in ?
raise ImportError("session save/restore requires readline module")
n. I configured like so:
../configure --enable-framework='/Users/skip/Applications' \
--enable-shared --prefix='/Users/skip/local' \
CPPFLAGS='-I/Users/skip/local/include -I/opt/local/include' \
LDFLAGS='-L/U
I have a trivial little script:
#!/usr/bin/env python
import os
import sys
os.execl("/Users/skip/local/bin/gnuclient", *sys.argv[1:])
which I want to convert to a .app bundle. I downloaded and installed py2app
using easy_install, successfully ran py2applet to
uple years ago:
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zip about audio recording or about Apple APIs via Python. Pointers to
simple examples would be much appreciated.
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beyond that is create a symlink called "python" and install the Python man
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You can try running
make -n altinstall
and looking at the end of the output. You should see something like this:
for i in X ; do \
if test $i != X; then \
echo /usr/bin/install -c -m 555 $i
/Users/skip/local/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/`basename $i`; \
/usr
ource. As you concluded, the correct one to use is the one which
corresponds to the Python executable you're using. I believe distutils uses
sys.exec_prefix and the version of the running Pyhon to get a base directory
for the installation. From there it's just a hop, skip and jump t
f", "latin-1")
u'\xef'
>>> unicode("\xef", "latin-1").encode("utf-8")
'\xc3\xaf'
>>> print unicode("\xef", "latin-1").encode("utf-8")
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PPC-ed-ness of files.
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n 31 00:40 HPServicesInterface.framework
drwxrwxr-x 7 root admin 238 Jan 31 00:40 HPSmartPrint.framework
drwxrwxrwx 6 skip staff 204 Feb 8 2005 HaskellSupport.framework
drwxr-xr-x 9 ellen wheel 306 Sep 6 2006 Mono.framework
drwxrwxr-x 5 root admin 170 Aug 4 2007 PluginManager
can build and run, are on Wikipedia:
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For the history of the pystone benchmark, UTSL:
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Jack> So: any other speculations as to why 2.66Ghz->3.0Ghz gives only a 1%
Jack> increase in pystones?
Maybe compilation flags.
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(35461 -> 37313).
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oesn't enter into things here. The pystones benchmark isn't
multithreaded so even if Python was free-threaded the pystones benchmark
wouldn't benefit from it.
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Thanks. Is that something available on the entire line of Core 2 Duo CPUs?
Is it something I can enable on my dual processor G5 or my G4 PowerBook? If
so, let me know and I'll add more rows.
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If you could help by adding some rows to the table, especially for current
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and my readline module is linked against that:
% otool -L ~/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/readline.so
/Users/skip/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/readline.so:
/opt/local/lib/libreadline.5.2.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0,
current version 5.2.0)
/opt/local/lib/libnc
Bill> The only use for the gestalt dependency is to check the version of
Bill> OS X.
Bill> I'd like to replace that with
...
Looks find to me. I say check it in and let people (or buildbots) complain
if something
How are all the extension modules in Mac/Modules generated? I'm trying to
remove PyArg_Parse() from the Python 3 C API. They use PyArg_Parse
extensively. If they were autogenerated I'd rather fix the generator
instead of editing each file by hand.
Tha
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Kevin> I was just looking at the new MacPython pages at the Python
Kevin> wiki--it appears nothing has been done with them since Skip moved
Kevin> them over. I'm thinking this is a terrific opportunity to bring
Kevin> them up to date: would anyone mind if I got s
Samuel> Anyone on this list installed the python based roundup issue
Samuel> tracker with framework python2.5?
Nope...
Samuel> How did you use --prefix or --install_scripts with setup.py?
Something like
python setup.py install --prefix=/alter/na/tive/
wiki had fallen into a bit of
disrepair, even if you ignore the spam problem, so a little general
TLC would probably help.
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cript to slurp the raw pages. Can you stick in a redirect
or rewrite on your web server that maps all URLs which contain "action=edit"
to a static page that says the wiki is frozen or is undergoing maintenance?
I'll slurp, clean and map URLs as necessary, then install the re
). Would that work for you?
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Uche> shows the fixed version, but when I submit, it seems to be
Uche> re-submitting the spam version. Really strange. Leaves me
Uche> wondering what's the status of admin on the wiki.
I just set up a login. I don'
.0.0 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5026)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import readline
>>> readline.__file__
'/Users/skip/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/rea
raries=sqlite3
Ronald> Why do you add /usr/include and /usr/lib to include_dirs and
Ronald> library_dirs?
I didn't add them. They were there by default. I believe I tried taking
them out leaving just /usr/local/* and the results were worse.
I'll go back and give it another try w
skip> I'm trying to get pysqlite 2.3.2 built on my Mac (OSX 10.4.8,
skip> gcc-4.0, Python 2.4.4c1)
...
skip> stdarg.h: No such file or directory/usr/include/stdarg.h:4:25:
skip> error: stdarg.h: No such file or directory
I updated setup.cfg to
ied reinstalling XCode 2 from the install disk, but I still don't see a
gcc 4.0 version of stdarg.h. /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0.
Software Update says my machine is up-to-date.
I must be missing something, but what?
Thx,
Skip
Perry> I'm curious if anyone on this list has either a suggestion for
Perry> some Python based Wiki software or a pointer to a site that can
Perry> help me in my search.
MoinMoin? http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/
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me I'll try and get to them within a few hours or a day.
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Ronald> It is annoying that www.python.org/download/mac doesn't mention
Ronald> the universal installer.
It does now. It will take a few minutes for the global build process to
update the website, but I checked in a minimal change to Subver
recent changes to the site,
including a completely new tool chain used to build it, details about
updating various bits like NEWS have been lost by many.
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Brendan> Python Documents: http://twototango.blogs.com/PythonDocument.icns
Brendan> Python Launcher: http://twototango.blogs.com/PythonLauncher.icns
Brendan> Idle: http://twototango.blogs.com/Idle.icns
Dumb question probably, but what reads/writes those fil
; you might have a leg to
stand on, but it's just "Python". Many people younger than 30 will not
understand the reference. Most people outside North America and Europe
won't know what it means either. I think you just have to accept that
snakes are going to be part of the package.
(potential) users and
Ronald> furthermore the snake-icon isn't actually used by MacPython
Ronald> (yet?).
I believe Bill has svn access now, so I'll leave that to him to decide.
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still look wrong to you? It's got the python-squeezing-the-apple icon for
me. If that's not the case for you perhaps you just need to do a page
reload or empty your browser's cache (or your proxy server's cache).
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the moment I'm trying to get the pyramid stuff working. Tim Parkin is
helping me via the net. Once I've either gotten that taken care of (or
given up on it) I will update the content a
My little iCal event/todo manipulator is loose and available from my Python
Bits page:
http://orca.mojam.com/~skip/python/
It allows you to add or print iCal events and todos from the command line.
You can also feed appropriately formatted email messages to it and turn them
into todos or
It's there now...
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didn't occur to me that it would be a bug in iCal. I
thought I was just doing something wrong (looking for the wrong property or
going about getting that bit of information the wrong way).
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DESCRIPTION:This is a note for the todo...\nAnother line.
DUE;TZID=America/Chicago:20060221T00
END:VTODO
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END:VCALENDAR
Any clue how I can fetch it via appscript?
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has> You can also render terminology to HTML file using the htmldoc
has> module. Easiest way is via HTMLDictionary
Thanks for the excellent help. They are just what I need
larm to an event? Where can I find such information?
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>> Alas, explicitly specifying the long path didn't work either. It
>> bombs on import of appscript:
Robert> Try
Robert> #!/usr/bin/env /usr/bin/pythonw
Cool! Works like a charm. Thanks...
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Bob> Sounds like you're using OS X 10.3. It shipped with pythonw as a
Bob> shell script, not an executable.
skip> Yes, thanks. Shoulda thought to actually look at
skip> /usr/bin/pythonw...
Alas, explicitly specifying
>> #!/usr/bin/pythonw
Bob> Sounds like you're using OS X 10.3. It shipped with pythonw as a
Bob> shell script, not an executable.
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t;/usr/bin/pythonw ical.py ..." it works just fine.
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t was written by Rich Salz several years ago. Python used
to work with it, but eventually started using some readline functionality
which libedit doesn't provide. I don't recall what that is.
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Another guy here at work has used Sybase on his Mac (built the Object Craft
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patch for XEmacs (contributed by the same guy) that's available as a a
branch on the XEmacs CVS repository.
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Jack> I've got the following javascript snippet in a bookmark in
Jack> Safari's bookmark bar:
Jack>
javascript:void(location.href='http://tinyurl.com/create.php?url='+location.href)
Cool. Seems to work with Firefox as well (1.0.3 on Sola
st.darwin-7.9.0-Power_Macintosh/python2.4-standalone/app/lib-dynload
creating
build/bdist.darwin-7.9.0-Power_Macintosh/python2.4-standalone/app/Frameworks
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ulimit -s 8192
Works for me at least.
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>> Thanks. I'll have to check to see if that will work for my laptop.
>> I have plenty of other stuff on my plate though, so this particular
>> issue has sort of moved to the back burner...
Bob> If it runs 10.2, it'll run 10.3. You'll probably notice better
Bob> performance,
for my laptop. I have
plenty of other stuff on my plate though, so this particular issue has sort
of moved to the back burner...
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t;namespace" so that pythonmac.org/wiki/FAQ can
Bob> still url rewrite to the right place.
Let me check on the python.org maintainers list and get back to you
(off-list unless there are others that care about these minutiae).
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ithout too much trouble. Take a look at
how that's managed for the python.org wiki:
http://www.python.org/moin/WikiSpam
That also includes a link to the main wiki page for that facility.
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It was clearly there in 10.2. That's my shell on my laptop.
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>> Not to mention gcc...
Bob> I said "... until you install Developer Tools". Mac OS X doesn't
Bob> ship stock with gcc.
Sorry, I missed that. In any case, even if gcc isn't distributed by
default, it's certainly used
mwh> I think there's a fair bit actually -- gnutar, bash, gnumake...
Not to mention gcc...
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Where would an interested person find a log of release dates?
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OS in quite awhile though. I suspect it has something to do with the fact
that iTunes represents a very lucrative revenue stream for Apple, while
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>> Am I missing something?
Charles> Umm . . . Software Update?
Software Update won't take me from 10.2 to 10.3. I'm as Software Updated as
I can be on my laptop, but it's still 10.2.
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want to achieve.
That's more-or-less the scheme adopted where I work. If we have two
versions of a sybase module installed side-by-side, the imports might look
like:
import local.db.sybase.v1 as sybase
or
import local.db.sybase.v2 as sybase
It's a bit cumbersome, but it
paradoxical world of
has> software for you Oh well, maybe in Python 3000... ;)
Write a PEP and put it out for review. I don't recall seeing this raised in
the Python community before. I certainly don't think it's something the
core developers worry about, so maybe more
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