Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-08 Thread Lee Cullens
Thanks for the reply Charles, I knew about the project perfs and after spending considerable time studying Bob's reply decided to go that way. I have a little bare bones project which loads and the shell is then indeed Python 2.4, which accomplishes what I wanted for the moment. In followin

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-08 Thread Charles Hartman
I haven't thought all the way through it, but this might be helpful: Put Python 2.4 where it belongs, put Wing where it belongs (in Applications). Make the adjustment in your project. In Project | Properties, the item "Python Executable" can be set to Custom, and in that field, begin typing

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-08 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 8, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Lee Cullens wrote: On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:59 AM, Charles Hartman wrote: 2. (Then I need to set a path variable to say which one will be used in various contexts, such as debugging, building with py2app, etc.?) When typi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-08 Thread Lee Cullens
On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:59 AM, Charles Hartman wrote: 2. (Then I need to set a path variable to say which one will be used in various contexts, such as debugging, building with py2app, etc.?) When typing "python": - If /usr/bin comes before /usr/l

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:34 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: You may be interested in this article: http://programming.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/29/0747230 Cameron Laird writes: It's worth noting that Cameron Laird (who I'm sure is a perfectly nice guy) is an old-time Python fan already (as am I); take

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bill Janssen
> You may be interested in this article: > http://programming.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/29/0747230 > > Cameron Laird writes: It's worth noting that Cameron Laird (who I'm sure is a perfectly nice guy) is an old-time Python fan already (as am I); take his pronouncements with a grain of sa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
Thomas, Thanks, that is an interesting article. I sent it along to a corporate client I do occasional work for (paid for my G5 playground). I'm apprehensive about Microsoft involvement though because they can muddy up the waters badly with their excessive greed. Just like I'd be apprehensive

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Juntunen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/05, Lee Cullens imposed order on a stream of electrons to say: > Personally I think these little package idiosyncrasies are what > discourage non-hacker users and businesses that might otherwise > advance the use of Python, to the benefit o

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 16:13, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote: One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonID

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 16:13, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote: One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 16:13, Lee Cullens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote: One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup in Python Documentation" are dimmed out (not a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
Personally I think these little package idiosyncrasies are what discourage non-hacker users and businesses that might otherwise advance the use of Python, to the benefit of those that have enough experience and skills to prepare and maintain a presentable tool - but we all have a perfect right

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote: One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup in Python Documentation" are dimmed out (not available). Such in the 2.3 PythonIDE is still available though. This time I did look in the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Cullens
Bob, One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup in Python Documentation" are dimmed out (not available). Such in the 2.3 PythonIDE is still available though. This time I did look in the Mac Python FAQ first, but the suggestio

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-04-03 Thread Lee Cullens
Well Bob - I decided to install your 2.4.1 before I get to a point where I could screw up something important :~) In an initial pass through my learning project, all worked well so far. The only thing I had to do was copy my localized package .pth file to a new folder ~/Library/Python/2.4/s

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-03-31 Thread Lee Cullens
strike "(why SPE broke)" - a confused old man (TclTkAqua is not wxPython) Bravo Bob :~) already have TclTkAqua (why SPE broke) so I'll give it a whirl Lee C On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: I've put together an "official unofficial" framework build distribution of Python 2.4.1

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-03-31 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Lee Cullens wrote: On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: I've put together an "official unofficial" framework build distribution of Python 2.4.1 for Mac OS X 10.3 (and later, but that is not tested yet). It is built using the same tools that Jack builds

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-03-31 Thread Lee Cullens
Bravo Bob :~) already have TclTkAqua (why SPE broke) so I'll give it a whirl Lee C On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: I've put together an "official unofficial" framework build distribution of Python 2.4.1 for Mac OS X 10.3 (and later, but that is not tested yet). It is built using

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-03-31 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:59 AM, Charles Hartman wrote: I apologize for being newbiely (nubilely? newbly??) dense, but I want to make sure I have this straight. I'm running 10.3.8 with the stock 2.3 framework Python; for Mac I use py2app to make standalone distributables (though I know that's partl

[Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: MacPython 2.4.1 installer

2005-03-31 Thread Bob Ippolito
I've put together an "official unofficial" framework build distribution of Python 2.4.1 for Mac OS X 10.3 (and later, but that is not tested yet). It is built using the same tools that Jack builds the official MacPython distribution with. Unlike typical builds, this one has all the stock goodie