Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-24 Thread William Kyngesburye
On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: Consistency is nice, especially on older systems that may have an old version where the changes include new features (as opposed to bug fixes). PNG updates are mostly bug fixes these days, but include important security updates that wo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-24 Thread Christopher Barker
William Kyngesburye wrote: Is that right? Or should we just use our own for Apple's build too? Consistency is nice, especially on older systems that may have an old version where the changes include new features (as opposed to bug fixes). PNG updates are mostly bug fixes these days, but incl

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-24 Thread William Kyngesburye
On Apr 24, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: William Kyngesburye wrote: This rambling was probably unnecessary, but the upshot is don't expect Apple to add other image libraries to the system or X11. We're on our own. OK. So I see it this way: For the "MacPython" build (2.5.2,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-24 Thread Nathan
$ locate *libjpeg* | grep -Ev 'opt|App|old' /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.2/Libraries/libjpeg.jnilib /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5.0/Libraries/libjpeg.jnilib /System/Library/Tcl/Img1.3/libjpegtcl1.0.dylib On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Chris

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-24 Thread William Kyngesburye
Nowhere in the system (at least user-accessible). Generally, Apple only puts stuff it actually uses into its library collection (/usr/lib). X11 includes FT and PNG because they are basic to X11's operation, or at least needed for the most common X11-based software (maybe libjpeg is not use

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-24 Thread Christopher Barker
William Kyngesburye wrote: This rambling was probably unnecessary, but the upshot is don't expect Apple to add other image libraries to the system or X11. We're on our own. OK. So I see it this way: For the "MacPython" build (2.5.2, runs on OS-X 10.3.9 and above), we need: libpng libfre

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-24 Thread William Kyngesburye
On Apr 23, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: Nathan wrote: Oh, and if you have any X11-related development questions (libpng, for example), I don't have leopard, so I'll ask you -- does X11 include both libpng and libfreetype? If so , then I guess that's the way to go for the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-24 Thread Christopher Barker
One more, How about libjpeg? -Chris Nathan wrote: My guess would be yes. $ locate *libpng* | grep -Ev 'opt|App|old' /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk/usr/X11/include/libpng /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk/usr/X11/include/libpng/png.h -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-23 Thread Nathan
My guess would be yes. $ locate *libpng* | grep -Ev 'opt|App|old' /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk/usr/X11/include/libpng /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk/usr/X11/include/libpng/png.h /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk/usr/X11/include/libpng/pngconf.h /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk/usr/X11/lib/libpng.3.0.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-23 Thread Christopher Barker
Nathan wrote: Oh, and if you have any X11-related development questions (libpng, for example), I don't have leopard, so I'll ask you -- does X11 include both libpng and libfreetype? If so , then I guess that's the way to go for the Leopard builds -- maybe Apple will make our lives easier even

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-23 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Christopher Barker > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > libpng and libfreetype (which is now included with X11, but as I understand > > it, that's an optional install). Anyway as we don't have any

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-23 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Christopher Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > libpng and libfreetype (which is now included with X11, but as I understand > it, that's an optional install). Anyway as we don't have any control over X11 is installed by default under Leopard. In fact, I'm not sur

[Pythonmac-SIG] Dependencies for Python packages on OS-X

2008-04-23 Thread Christopher Barker
George Nurser wrote: Apologies for perhaps raising an old chestnut here but these issues would not arise if we had separate intel and ppc MacPython binaries. But all sorts of other issues would arise. The tricky bit to all of this is getting/building Universal versions of the various depen