Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style (spaces)

2005-12-01 Thread David Person
Odd, I always use 2 spaces, and haven't really heard 4 was standard. I don't keep up much with those things, though :) Tabs are certainly allowed. There is a potential difficulty in mixing tabs and spaces in the same file, since it is unclear how many spaces go into a tab, so there is potent

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style(spaces)

2005-11-30 Thread lanceboyle
On Nov 30, 2005, at 8:11 AM, Louis Pecora wrote: >> I run into this all the time in C with those I develop with. We try >> to keep it to spaces but some people forget that their editor puts in >> a tab automatically for 8 spaces and then spaces after that to column >> 12 for example. Then my edit

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style (spaces)

2005-11-30 Thread Jack Jansen
On 29-nov-2005, at 18:33, Louis Pecora wrote: > What the heck were they (Guido?) thinking when they used 4 spaces > as the one true mode of indentation for Python? Initially Python was unix-only, and there (at that time) a tab was 8 spaces and that is that, no problem with mixing tab/spaces.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting

2005-11-30 Thread Chris Barker
Ryan Wilcox wrote: > Hmm... another idea would be to write a script and attach it to BBEdit's Save > item so that it automatically performs Detab on your source code. Write in > tabs, have it automagically convert to spaces. Such a script is below: > > --name this "File•Save" and put it in the >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style(spaces)

2005-11-30 Thread Louis Pecora
Rob Managan wrote: > Because in a mixed environment some one will take a file that has > >tabs and add spaces or vice versa. As soon as lines have a mixture of >tabs and spaces then the display does ugly things when you change >editors. > >I run into this all the time in C with those I develop w

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting

2005-11-30 Thread Ryan Wilcox
On 11/29/05, at 9:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Yes, it is, but it really doesn't do python indenting quite right. >These days, all python code really should be indented with 4 spaces, >and while you can set BBedit to put in 4 spaces when you hit the tab >key, it doesn't recognize those four spa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style(spaces)

2005-11-29 Thread Rob Managan
>On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Louis Pecora wrote: > >> Kent Quirk wrote: >> >>> Just because there seems to be an orgy of people agreeing that >>> Tabs are the One True Way, I feel a need to point out that there >>> are those of us who fervently believe that Tabs Are Evil. The >>> reason is

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style(spaces)

2005-11-29 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Louis Pecora wrote: > Kent Quirk wrote: > >> Just because there seems to be an orgy of people agreeing that >> Tabs are the One True Way, I feel a need to point out that there >> are those of us who fervently believe that Tabs Are Evil. The >> reason is that tab

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style(spaces)

2005-11-29 Thread Louis Pecora
Kent Quirk wrote: >Just because there seems to be an orgy of people agreeing that Tabs are the >One True Way, I feel a need to point out that there are those of us who >fervently believe that Tabs Are Evil. The reason is that tabs are interpreted >differently in different places, and they're in

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style(spaces)

2005-11-29 Thread Kent Quirk
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Erik Moström Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:18 PM To: Chris Barker Cc: Louis Pecora; pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style(spaces) C

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style (spaces)

2005-11-29 Thread Jan Erik Moström
Chris Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2005-11-29 20:40: > > I would think that TAB would be infinitely better and avoid the > > problems you point out that probably plague a lot of editors when > > doing Python code. > > I agree. Tabs would be easier in most cases, but: Thank you, while I really like

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style (spaces)

2005-11-29 Thread Chris Barker
Louis Pecora wrote: > You hold down the option key while selecting, but you cannot do this > in the soft wrap mode. You have to set the window to hard wrap at > some column number. If you have the BBEdit manual, you can find more > info around page 52 or just look in the index. thanks. > What

[Pythonmac-SIG] Selecting in BBEdit & Python Indenting style (spaces)

2005-11-29 Thread Louis Pecora
Chris Barker asked: >Side note: does anyone know how to do selection, cut and paste by columns in BBEdit? You hold down the option key while selecting, but you cannot do this in the soft wrap mode. You have to set the window to hard wrap at some column number.