Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-27 Thread Bob Ippolito
That's actually part of the intro documentation, it's just not on the site since it was written after the last version was released: http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/trunk/pyobjc/Doc/intro.html The intro documentation should be all you need to be able to understand PyObjC and get started readin

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-27 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Actually, PyObjC is about as documented as it needs to be, particularly if you start with Bob's more recent intro doc: http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2005/07/05/pyobjc-first-steps/ Once you learn the PyObjC conventions, the only trickery at that point is being able to read a bit of Objective-C

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-27 Thread Phil Christensen
you must be new here. ;-) On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Jon Rosebaugh wrote: > Where's the documentation? [snip snip snip] > This reminds me of trying to learn Twisted. > > On 7/27/05, Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You've got the wrong impression of PyObjC. Download it, play with

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-27 Thread Jon Rosebaugh
Where's the documentation? The webpage has a PyObjC version of Apple's CurrencyConverter tutorial, which really doesn't teach you much except how to align and connect things in IB and run py2app. The examples (well, at least the iClass example, which appears to be the most relevant one to my curren

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-27 Thread Chris Barker
Robert Kern wrote: > wxPython and Tk are so-so in this regard. They use the real thing > underneath for most of their widgets. Really? TK sure didn't used to do this.And does it use an native higher level widgets? In any case, I haven't used TK in a long time, but everything I've seen indicates

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-27 Thread Dethe Elza
On 26-Jul-05, at 11:12 PM, Jon Rosebaugh wrote: > I know of PyObjC (which scares me, because Interface Builder and Cocoa > scare me; I also had an initial fear (or perhaps dislike) of Interface Builder to begin with. Once you learn to use it, and PyObjC, you can be incredibly productive. C

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-27 Thread Michael Hudson
Jon Rosebaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (And if I've got the wrong impression of PyObjC, I'm happy to be > enlightened.) You have the wrong impression of PyObjC. Nearly everything is much less of a pain than toolbars :) (AIUI, I haven't actually implemented a toolbar yet...) Cheers, mwh --

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-26 Thread Robert Kern
Jon Rosebaugh wrote: > I'm wondering how many of the many GUI toolkits for python play really > well with Mac OS X, including actual native look, instead of just an > Aqua "theme" that doesn't look quite right? wxPython and Tk are so-so in this regard. They use the real thing underneath for most

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-26 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jul 26, 2005, at 8:12 PM, Jon Rosebaugh wrote: > I'm wondering how many of the many GUI toolkits for python play really > well with Mac OS X, including actual native look, instead of just an > Aqua "theme" that doesn't look quite right? > > I know of PyObjC (which scares me, because Interface

[Pythonmac-SIG] Solid GUI toolkits for Mac?

2005-07-26 Thread Jon Rosebaugh
I'm wondering how many of the many GUI toolkits for python play really well with Mac OS X, including actual native look, instead of just an Aqua "theme" that doesn't look quite right? I know of PyObjC (which scares me, because Interface Builder and Cocoa scare me; come on, a four-page tutorial wit