On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Roger Binns wrote:
All the example code is in Objective C. Quite simply there is
far too steep a learning curve to get through these layers be
it Objective C or pseudo objects in C plus mapping into Python
land.
Uh, no it isn't. A fair share of the IOKit examples are
All the example code is in Objective C. Quite simply there is
far too steep a learning curve to get through these layers be
it Objective C or pseudo objects in C plus mapping into Python
land.
Uh, no it isn't. A fair share of the IOKit examples are pure C or C++.
Ok, more accurately the examples
On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:15, Roger Binns wrote:
You don't need to touch Objective-C at all! IOKit is plain old C.
All the example code is in Objective C. Quite simply there is
far too steep a learning curve to get through these layers be
it Objective C or pseudo objects in C plus mapping into Python
You don't need to touch Objective-C at all! IOKit is plain old C.
All the example code is in Objective C. Quite simply there is
far too steep a learning curve to get through these layers be
it Objective C or pseudo objects in C plus mapping into Python
land.
It really is orders of magnitude easie
You're probably not setting the right plist keys or something for
Apple's help.
The documentation doesn't make it clear what should be set.
Additionally I have no idea how to make them from Python so
I can automate all this.
Python does it, see:
python/dist/src/Mac/OSX/Doc
There is a heroic amount
On Feb 10, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 10, 2005, at 2:25 AM, Roger Binns wrote:
Incidentally I did find a gross hack to work around the py2app
bug of not handling the optimise option. Stripping out the doc
strings saves over 3MB of compressed size, and aren't useful
in the binary
On Feb 10, 2005, at 8:05, Charles Hartman wrote:
On Feb 9, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Roger Binns wrote:
I'm not sure whether to ask if you could explain "compile them into
the executable" (I don't know how to do that; I have to give my app
to Windows people, but actually (*knowing* anything about Window
That's extremely helpful. I'd downloaded the setup script before and
planned to study it -- now I'll go back to it. (Wish it did the py2app
stuff, for self-pedagogical reasons -- but py2app does make things
easier rather than harder.) And for me at least, the slide-show gives
quite useful overv
On Feb 10, 2005, at 3:57, Roger Binns wrote:
Probably because it doesn't have drivers for them. If there's no
matching driver, it won't pull up a useful nub to stick on it.
The right thing happens in the end. There is no need for drivers
on some interfaces, and they must be used on others (eg on
Probably because it doesn't have drivers for them. If there's no
matching driver, it won't pull up a useful nub to stick on it.
The right thing happens in the end. There is no need for drivers
on some interfaces, and they must be used on others (eg ones that
implement the USB modem protocol or t
On Feb 10, 2005, at 3:26 AM, Roger Binns wrote:
Every option py2app takes is documented:
python setup.py py2app --help
I started at http://pythonmac.org/wiki/py2app
It would probably be helpful to add the above output to that page.
Uh.. yeah, it would be useful to have some web documentation. I wi
Every option py2app takes is documented:
python setup.py py2app --help
I started at http://pythonmac.org/wiki/py2app
It would probably be helpful to add the above output to that page.
You're probably not setting the right plist keys or something for
Apple's help.
The documentation doesn't make it
On Feb 10, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Roger Binns wrote:
Obviously not people familiar with http://developer.apple.com/ :)
Actually Steven Palm who did most of the original got some changes
I still don't understand into libusb to make it work correctly on
Mac. There is deep voodoo involved since some of th
On Feb 10, 2005, at 3:00 AM, Roger Binns wrote:
So don't bother building a 10.3 version. The 10.2 version should
work fine.
That is what was tried first - we don't want the extra work! I don't
know what the issue was, but there was some incompatibility.
There shouldn't be. If there is, it's pro
So don't bother building a 10.3 version. The 10.2 version should work
fine.
That is what was tried first - we don't want the extra work! I don't
know what the issue was, but there was some incompatibility.
Did you know py2app had a --strip option, which does strip -x -S?
Nope. The way this wo
Obviously not people familiar with http://developer.apple.com/ :)
Actually Steven Palm who did most of the original got some changes
I still don't understand into libusb to make it work correctly on
Mac. There is deep voodoo involved since some of the phones are
actually composite devices and MacO
On Feb 10, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 10, 2005, at 2:25 AM, Roger Binns wrote:
I'd like to see that pie slice for the Mac OS X build to shrink even
further..
You aren't satisfied with being the smallest amount of code already
?-)
I don't really care what the other platforms look
On Feb 10, 2005, at 2:25 AM, Roger Binns wrote:
I'd like to see that pie slice for the Mac OS X build to shrink even
further..
You aren't satisfied with being the smallest amount of code already ?-)
I don't really care what the other platforms look like, but I want
py2app setup files to be as com
I'd like to see that pie slice for the Mac OS X build to shrink even
further..
You aren't satisfied with being the smallest amount of code already ?-)
I took at a look at your setup.py, and it looks a fair amount
of it doesn't need to be specified:
More accurately you are looking at code that ha
On Feb 10, 2005, at 1:36 AM, Roger Binns wrote:
In your presentation
BTW I only got a Mac (mini) a few weeks ago, so all my information
was based on what other people contributed.
Obviously not people familiar with http://developer.apple.com/ :)
you say that serial devices on the Mac are in /dev w
In your presentation
BTW I only got a Mac (mini) a few weeks ago, so all my information
was based on what other people contributed.
you say that serial devices on the Mac are in /dev
with "no other information". That is totally not true, unless you say
"no other information available from POS
On Feb 9, 2005, at 23:47, Roger Binns wrote:
You can make a single app appear be in the native installer format
for each platform. We did it for BitPim. Go ahead, download and
try it. You don't actually need a cell phone for the program to
run.
This is the Python code used to do the installer wo
On Feb 9, 2005, at 23:47, Roger Binns wrote:
I'm not sure whether to ask if you could explain "compile them into
the executable" (I don't know how to do that; I have to give my app
to Windows people, but actually (*knowing* anything about Windows . .
.) or if you could explain "(bleh)" -- but ma
I'm not sure whether to ask if you could explain "compile them into the
executable" (I don't know how to do that; I have to give my app to
Windows people, but actually (*knowing* anything about Windows . . .)
or if you could explain "(bleh)" -- but maybe the one question answers
the other. Oh w
On Feb 9, 2005, at 22:34, Charles Hartman wrote:
On Feb 9, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Windows, you either put the data files in some arbitrary fixed
place (may be relative to the executable), or you compile them into
the executable as resources (bleh).
I'm not sure whether to ask
On Feb 9, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Windows, you either put the data files in some arbitrary fixed
place (may be relative to the executable), or you compile them into
the executable as resources (bleh).
I'm not sure whether to ask if you could explain "compile them into the
exec
On Feb 9, 2005, at 10:13 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
On Feb 9, 2005, at 9:04 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
You should never, ever, ever, ever, ever write inside of a bundle
anyway. You should make this runtime directory in /tmp,
/Library/Application Support/, etc.
In fact, I was thinking that I shou
I've got this gospel, but I wonder how it relates to your message, a
little while back, saying -- if I understood you right! -- that there's
nowhere in a Windows application to put a data file that's comparable
to putting it inside the bundle (as Apple wants). Am I terminally
confused, or o
On 10/02/2005, at 1:04 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
You should never, ever, ever, ever, ever write inside of a bundle
anyway. You should make this runtime directory in /tmp,
/Library/Application Support/, etc.
Oh, OK :)
I readily admit that I was being slack (actually, mostly I'm in a
hurry) in usin
On Feb 9, 2005, at 20:55, Richard Jones wrote:
On 10/02/2005, at 12:38 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
I tried to reproduce this problem by dropping your Python dylib into
my framework, and it worked fine.. what version of Mac OS X are you
using and have you tried it a second time after killing build a
On 10/02/2005, at 12:38 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
I tried to reproduce this problem by dropping your Python dylib into
my framework, and it worked fine.. what version of Mac OS X are you
using and have you tried it a second time after killing build and
dist?
That was it - I needed to clean out
On Feb 9, 2005, at 20:00, Richard Jones wrote:
On 10/02/2005, at 10:35 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
The current svn trunk of py2app is probably suitable for this. It
now:
- Strips by default. -S and --strip are still there for
compatibility, but they are a no-op (does anyone care if I remove
thi
On 10/02/2005, at 10:35 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
The current svn trunk of py2app is probably suitable for this. It now:
- Strips by default. -S and --strip are still there for
compatibility, but they are a no-op (does anyone care if I remove this
compatibility?)
I get the following error durin
On 10/02/2005, at 10:35 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
- Adds a Python interpreter to the bundle to where sys.executable is
(only supported for framework builds right now)
Thanks Bob!
I'll have a play straight away :)
Richard
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On Feb 3, 2005, at 7:58 PM, Richard Jones wrote:
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 01:34 am, Bob Ippolito wrote:
No, py2app just doesn't give you a regular Python interpreter.. so,
that's a problem I guess. I'm not sure what to suggest.
Yep, looks like it's the killer for the py2app'ed Zope.
I'm going to investi
On 04/02/2005, at 12:05 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
I'll see about adding an optional regular Python interpreter to the
bundle, but that probably won't happen for a few weeks.
No sweat - I've just introduced our target users to running Zope from
the command-line which will suffice for now :)
Ric
On Feb 3, 2005, at 19:58, Richard Jones wrote:
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No, py2app just doesn't give you a regular Python interpreter.. so,
that's a problem I guess. I'm not sure what to suggest.
Yep, looks like it's the killer
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 01:34 am, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> No, py2app just doesn't give you a regular Python interpreter.. so,
> that's a problem I guess. I'm not sure what to suggest.
Yep, looks like it's the killer for the py2app'ed Zope.
I'm going to inv
On Feb 3, 2005, at 2:47, Richard Jones wrote:
On 03/02/2005, at 6:12 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 2, 2005, at 19:08, Richard Jones wrote:
OK, starting at it again this morning, I've made some progress
getting things configured correctly to start up Zope.
I've hit another roadblock though -- Zo
On 03/02/2005, at 6:12 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 2, 2005, at 19:08, Richard Jones wrote:
OK, starting at it again this morning, I've made some progress
getting things configured correctly to start up Zope.
I've hit another roadblock though -- Zope needs to fork/exec off new
processes. I c
On Feb 2, 2005, at 19:08, Richard Jones wrote:
OK, starting at it again this morning, I've made some progress getting
things configured correctly to start up Zope.
I've hit another roadblock though -- Zope needs to fork/exec off new
processes. I can't actually find a Python interpreter in the ap
OK, starting at it again this morning, I've made some progress getting
things configured correctly to start up Zope.
I've hit another roadblock though -- Zope needs to fork/exec off new
processes. I can't actually find a Python interpreter in the app
generated by py2app, and I suspect one isn't
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