Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] a beginner's list

2006-02-07 Thread has
Bill Janssen wrote: >I think this is a wonderful example of the mindset that's wrong with >the current situation. An afternoon's work? > >>> print "Hello, World!" Bill nails it. Charles has done some good work here (first draft is always the hardest); now let's kick the tar out of it so it'll

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pkg_resources and Mac OS X compatibility

2006-02-07 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 02:07 PM 2/5/2006 -0800, Bob Ippolito wrote: >On Feb 5, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: >>With the way that we're returning the distutils platform on the >>universal branch of Mac OS X, we need another patch to >>pkg_resources. The reason for this is that >>distutils.util.get_platform() r

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Supporting arch specific eggs with a fat Python and setuptools

2006-02-07 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:47 PM 2/6/2006 -0800, Bob Ippolito wrote: >This sort must be used only with eggs that are compatible >with the current architecture -- which means either "fat" or >_macosx_arch(os.uname()[4].replace(' ', '_')). Also allowing >_macosx_arch and universally allowing fat are going to require >an

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pkg_resources and Mac OS X compatibility

2006-02-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:37 AM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 02:07 PM 2/5/2006 -0800, Bob Ippolito wrote: >> On Feb 5, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> With the way that we're returning the distutils platform on the >>> universal branch of Mac OS X, we need another patch to >>> pkg_resources.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pkg_resources and Mac OS X compatibility

2006-02-07 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:48 AM 2/7/2006 -0800, Bob Ippolito wrote: >On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:37 AM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>I've implemented a similar - but different - patch. Yours causes >>setuptools' tests to fail on non-Mac platforms, including non-Mac >>darwin. > >Could you explain how? I don't see it. The condit

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-07 Thread Christopher Barker
Bob Ippolito wrote: > I'll tell you what: I'll drop the ego and get a new pair of glasses in > exchange for five or six million dollars.. I'll bet I could package up Python, PyObjC etc. with good installers and tutorials for only about a one million dollars. Then maybe another million to start

[Pythonmac-SIG] Problems with PyOpenGL build and fixes?

2006-02-07 Thread Bill Northcott
I downloaded and installed Bob's binary of wxPython for 2.4, which seems to work nicely but expects PyOpenGL to be installed. So I tried installing it and fell right back into the header file messes again. Issues so far: 1. the current source tarball has a big problem. There is a script,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems with PyOpenGL build and fixes?

2006-02-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 7, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Bill Northcott wrote: > I downloaded and installed Bob's binary of wxPython for 2.4, which > seems to work nicely but expects PyOpenGL to be installed. So I > tried installing it and fell right back into the header file messes > again. I'm pretty sure that is the sam

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] a beginner's list

2006-02-07 Thread Chris Porter
I'm afraid this criticism is spot on. I got a python program from a programmer. I want to run it on my Mac. And here, Mac comes with Python! Very nice. That shouldn't be downplayed. All I needed was the Python that was already installed, plus a couple added things. (I needed Python to talk to MySQ

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] a beginner's list

2006-02-07 Thread Christopher Barker
Chris Porter wrote: > And here, Mac comes with Python! Very nice. > That shouldn't be downplayed. All I needed was the Python that was already > installed, plus a couple added things. (I needed Python to talk to MySQL, and > that I had to install MySQL, so there was likely no native ability to do

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] a beginner's list

2006-02-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 7, 2006, at 11:07 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Chris Porter wrote: >> And here, Mac comes with Python! Very nice. >> That shouldn't be downplayed. All I needed was the Python that was >> already >> installed, plus a couple added things. (I needed Python to talk to >> MySQL, and >> t