Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Free Download

2006-02-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Harry Stratton wrote: > This may seem stupid, but I can't find any version of > python that is not a document when downloaded. Please > send me a link. You're going to have to be a little more specific about what version of Python you want and what OS you have, pr

[Pythonmac-SIG] Output window

2006-02-14 Thread ghislain delaunois
Dear all, I'm new in MacPython. I installed MacPython 2.4.1 for Mac OS X 10.3. and started working with PythonIDE, with a new file and a short script, but when I launch "Run all", the window "Output" does not display. I'm sure it works because when I quit PythonIDE, I see very briefly the Ou

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Free Download

2006-02-14 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harry Stratton wrote: > Hi, > This may seem stupid, but I can't find any version of > python that is not a document when downloaded. Please > send me a link. > John Mandrake. > Where are you downloading Python from and what program are you using? -

[Pythonmac-SIG] never mind

2006-02-14 Thread Charles Hartman
Never mind. The previous message was supposed to get canceled. Charles ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] xcode as IDE?

2006-02-14 Thread Hubert Holin
Paris (U.E.), le 14/02/2006 Bonjour On 12 févr. 2006, at 05:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12 février 2006 05:06:33 HNEC > To: I.Vinogradov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] xcode as IDE? > >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Kent Quirk
My complaint about that one is that it’s far too big for an icon, and shrunk to icon size it will be illegible.   Here's a Monty Pythonic idea for an icon worked up by our artist:     There are several variations possible of this idea, including incorporating an apple sticking out o

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Output window

2006-02-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:54 AM, ghislain delaunois wrote: > I'm new in MacPython. I installed MacPython 2.4.1 for Mac OS X 10.3. > and started working with PythonIDE, with a new file and a short > script, > but when I launch "Run all", the window "Output" does not display. I'm > sure it works beca

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] final? try at new MacPython download page

2006-02-14 Thread Christopher Barker
Charles Hartman wrote: > The two big topics -- topics that loomed large for me when I started > trying to figure out whether I wanted to use Python on the Mac -- > aren't really addressed yet: alternative IDEs (Wing, SPE, PyOXIDE if > it were working, etc) and GUI libraries (especially wxPyth

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Christopher Barker
Kevin, you are completely right about the icon issue, but someone needs to lead the effort --- will you do it? If you want it to be adopted by the general Python community, Guido is the obvious one to ask. By the way, I've heard there is a (slow) effort afoot to update the python.org web site -

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Chris, On Feb 14, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Kevin, you are completely right about the icon issue, but someone > needs to lead the effort --- will you do it? If you want it to be > adopted by the general Python community, Guido is the obvious one > to ask. By the way,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] problems with 2.4.1 installer

2006-02-14 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 14-feb-2006, at 3:12, Bob Ippolito wrote: 2. The IDLE app is bit hard to find, being in /Applications/MacPython-2.4/, along with a bunch of other (dead or dying?) apps, like PythonIDE and PackageManager. This is intentional, that's not changing. "This" being the folder nam

[Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonw and VPython and Fink

2006-02-14 Thread Matthias Milczynski
Hello, I would like to use SPE (cool Python editor) with vpython, that I installed with fink (unfortunately there is no other possibility yet). My vpython stuff is located in /sw/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ visual, but I run SPE with /usr/local/bin/pythonw2.4. When I try to run any vpytho

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] problems with 2.4.1 installer

2006-02-14 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 14-feb-2006, at 3:24, Bob Ippolito wrote: I see no reason to remove either BuildApplet or PythonLauncher for this release. PythonLauncher is the program that's used when you double click on .pyw files. We could move it insite the framework, but then you'd no longer have an easy way to chan

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 13-feb-2006, at 22:13, Charles Hartman wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: Please, everyone, do not continue this conversation until you have a serious candidate icon for replacing the 12 ton weight. We don't need ideas or opinions, we need pixels. I just sent this

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonw and VPython and Fink

2006-02-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 14, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Matthias Milczynski wrote: > I would like to use SPE (cool Python editor) with vpython, that I > installed with fink (unfortunately there is no other possibility > yet). My vpython stuff is located in /sw/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ > visual, but I run SPE with /usr/l

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Charles Hartman
On Feb 14, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > As I already replied off-list, I don't like this picture at all. It > is a lot > less tastefull than the icon on Bob's website (which I do like). > The only reason > for having a discussion about the icon anyway is that some people > cla

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Bill Janssen
> The only reason for having a discussion about the icon anyway is > that some people claim that a photo-realistic snake-related image > will scare some users away. It almost seems inhumane to try to convince those people to use a language called "Python", anyway. Probably cause bad dreams or som

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonw and VPython and Fink

2006-02-14 Thread Dethe Elza
On 14-Feb-06, at 1:28 PM, Matthias Milczynski wrote: > I assume that the solution of this problem would be to somehow get a > fink-based pythonw, but this seems to be not avaiable. > Can anybody help me with this? I think the solution is for VPython to be ported to Aqua instead of using X11 (so

[Pythonmac-SIG] Interesting Open Source Project: Cocoa Dialog

2006-02-14 Thread Daniel Lord
(Unless of course its been mentioned here before and then in the words of SNL's immortal Emily Latella: "Never mind!") CocoaDialog seems to fill that gap between the command-line and PyObjC providing a 'quick and dirty' GUI interface for scripts (Python. Perl. Shell, Ruby, etc.) I just found

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonw and VPython and Fink

2006-02-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 14, 2006, at 8:58 PM, Dethe Elza wrote: > On 14-Feb-06, at 1:28 PM, Matthias Milczynski wrote: >> I assume that the solution of this problem would be to somehow get a >> fink-based pythonw, but this seems to be not avaiable. >> Can anybody help me with this? > > I think the solution is for

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonw and VPython and Fink

2006-02-14 Thread Robert Kern
Dethe Elza wrote: > I think the solution is for VPython to be ported to Aqua instead of > using X11 (so it can use regular OS X Python, not Fink, among other > good things). Framework builds of Python can use X11 just fine. I'm not sure that's the holdup. -- Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] "

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Bill Janssen
> By the > way, I've heard there is a (slow) effort afoot to update the python.org > web site -- perhaps they've already done done icon work, or other > graphic work that could be adapted. http://beta.python.org/ They're using a logo from http://www.pythonology.com/logos. Personally, I prefer

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Interesting Open Source Project: Cocoa Dialog

2006-02-14 Thread lanceboyle
Perhaps even better is the _most_excellent_ Pashua. http://www.bluem.net/downloads/pashua_en/ Jerry On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:09 PM, Daniel Lord wrote: > (Unless of course its been mentioned here before and then in the > words of SNL's immortal Emily Latella: "Never mind!") > > CocoaDialog seems

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Interesting Open Source Project: Cocoa Dialog

2006-02-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 14, 2006, at 9:09 PM, Daniel Lord wrote: > (Unless of course its been mentioned here before and then in the > words of SNL's immortal Emily Latella: "Never mind!") I think something like it was mentioned a few years ago, but there haven't been any recent discussions about this particula

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonw and VPython and Fink

2006-02-14 Thread Dethe Elza
> Framework builds of Python can use X11 just fine. I'm not sure > that's the holdup. The holdup is that it hasn't really been ported to OS X, they've just tweaked the Linux/Gnome version enough that you can build it on OS X, as long as you build GTK and friends first, and use X11, and get