Jamie Lokier wrote:
Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 12:09 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
When we want to create a full VirtIO based machine, we're still missing
graphics output. Fortunately, Linux provides us with most of the frameworks
to render text and everything, we only need to implemen
Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/03/2009 12:09 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >When we want to create a full VirtIO based machine, we're still missing
> >graphics output. Fortunately, Linux provides us with most of the frameworks
> >to render text and everything, we only need to implement a transport.
> >
>
Vincent Hanquez wrote:
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:38:18AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 01:25 PM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
not sure if i'm missing the point here, but couldn't it be hypothetically
extended to stuff 3d (or video& more 2d accel ?) commands too ? I can't
imagine th
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:38:18AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/03/2009 01:25 PM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
>> not sure if i'm missing the point here, but couldn't it be hypothetically
>> extended to stuff 3d (or video& more 2d accel ?) commands too ? I can't
>> imagine the cirrus or stdvga drive
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 06:05:13PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> cirrus has pretty good 2d acceleration. 3D is a mega-project though.
>>>
>> Cirrus has no blending/compositing hardware support.
>> Paravirtualized graphics can easily support full XRender-style
>> 2D acceleration.
>
> What do t
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:38:18AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/03/2009 01:25 PM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
> > not sure if i'm missing the point here, but couldn't it be hypothetically
> > extended to stuff 3d (or video& more 2d accel ?) commands too ? I can't
> > imagine the cirrus or stdvga dr
On 11/03/2009 05:05 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 05:29 PM, Ondrej Zajicek wrote:
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:38:18AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 01:25 PM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
not sure if i'm missing the point here, but couldn't it be
hypothetically
extended to stuff 3d (or
On 11/03/2009 05:29 PM, Ondrej Zajicek wrote:
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:38:18AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 01:25 PM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
not sure if i'm missing the point here, but couldn't it be hypothetically
extended to stuff 3d (or video& more 2d accel ?) command
On 11/03/2009 05:14 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 10:26 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Exactly. In fact, I'm even scared to reboot mine because I might end
up in a 3270 terminal. The whole text only crap keeps people from
using this platform! And that's what I want to c
Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 10:26 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Exactly. In fact, I'm even scared to reboot mine because I might end
up in a 3270 terminal. The whole text only crap keeps people from
using this platform! And that's what I want to change here.
Ok. I oppose paravirtualization f
On 11/03/2009 01:25 PM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
not sure if i'm missing the point here, but couldn't it be hypothetically
extended to stuff 3d (or video& more 2d accel ?) commands too ? I can't
imagine the cirrus or stdvga driver be able to do that ever ;)
cirrus has pretty good 2d accelera
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 07:39:34AM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
> On 03.11.2009, at 07:34, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>
How does it work today?
>>>
>>> You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing
>>> haunting people's nigh
On 11/03/2009 10:26 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Exactly. In fact, I'm even scared to reboot mine because I might end
up in a 3270 terminal. The whole text only crap keeps people from
using this platform! And that's what I want to change here.
Ok. I oppose paravirtualization for its own sake and
On 03.11.2009, at 09:20, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 09:50 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Ok, imagine this was not this unloved S390 odd architecture but
X86. The only output choices you have are:
1) virtio-console
2) VNC / SSH over network
3) virtio-fb
Now you want to configure a server,
On 11/03/2009 09:50 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Ok, imagine this was not this unloved S390 odd architecture but X86.
The only output choices you have are:
1) virtio-console
2) VNC / SSH over network
3) virtio-fb
Now you want to configure a server, probably using yast and all those
nice graphi
On 03.11.2009, at 08:43, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 08:39 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
On 03.11.2009, at 07:34, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
How does it work today?
You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst
thing haunting peopl
On 11/03/2009 08:39 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
On 03.11.2009, at 07:34, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
How does it work today?
You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing
haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that
On 03.11.2009, at 07:34, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
How does it work today?
You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing
haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode
as quickly as possible and off into SS
On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
How does it work today?
You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing
haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode as
quickly as possible and off into SSH / VNC.
Despite the coolness factor, IMO a fe
On 03.11.2009, at 07:24, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 08:22 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
This is especially important on machines that can't do MMIO, as
all current
graphics implementations qemu emulates I'm aware of so far fail
here.
s390 virtual desktops?
Well - have you ever trie
On 11/03/2009 08:22 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
This is especially important on machines that can't do MMIO, as all
current
graphics implementations qemu emulates I'm aware of so far fail here.
s390 virtual desktops?
Well - have you ever tried installing SLES / RHEL on an S390? If not,
giv
On 03.11.2009, at 07:21, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 11/03/2009 12:09 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
When we want to create a full VirtIO based machine, we're still
missing
graphics output. Fortunately, Linux provides us with most of the
frameworks
to render text and everything, we only need to implem
On 11/03/2009 12:09 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
When we want to create a full VirtIO based machine, we're still missing
graphics output. Fortunately, Linux provides us with most of the frameworks
to render text and everything, we only need to implement a transport.
So this is a frame buffer backen
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