[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-30 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 05:01:38PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > I think it's a good idea to use the mailing list whenever possible. > Likewise, if you see a patch go in that you think would have benefited > from being on the list, point it out. Sometimes it would have benefited *others* if

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-30 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 09:03:18PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:12:57PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:40:31PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:23:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 27,

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-29 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:12:57PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:40:31PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:23:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 05:01:38PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > > Likewise, if y

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-29 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:40:31PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:23:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 05:01:38PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > Likewise, if you see a patch go in that you think would have benefited > > > from being

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-29 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:23:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 05:01:38PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > Likewise, if you see a patch go in that you think would have benefited > > from being on the list, point it out. > > How *would* I see it? I guess I could wr

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-29 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 05:01:38PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Likewise, if you see a patch go in that you think would have benefited > from being on the list, point it out. How *would* I see it? I guess I could write scripts that correlated git logs (or qemu commit list if it is ever resurr

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-28 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:15:10PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:58:32AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > > On 12/28/2009 12:52 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > > > >As a reviewer, you can read qemu-commits to see when something has > > >been committed. > > > > > >I have the s

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-28 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:58:32AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 12/28/2009 12:52 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > >As a reviewer, you can read qemu-commits to see when something has > >been committed. > > > >I have the same problem fwiw. I don't read qemu-commits because I > >always look at the c

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-28 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 05:01:38PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Personally, I think blanket rules get in the way more than they help and > the only thing that's worse is arguing about the merits of them :-) No rules is also not good :) I hope everyone can agree on principle, and we'll see abo

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-28 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:58:32AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 12/28/2009 12:52 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> >> As a reviewer, you can read qemu-commits to see when something has >> been committed. >> >> I have the same problem fwiw. I don't read qemu-commits because I >> always look at the

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-28 Thread Avi Kivity
On 12/28/2009 12:52 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: As a reviewer, you can read qemu-commits to see when something has been committed. I have the same problem fwiw. I don't read qemu-commits because I always look at the contents of origin when I fetch from it to see what others are doing. Prac

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Scott Tsai
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Most of the patches I commit without posting them first to the list are > to fix bugs on non i386 targets, as they are broken too often by people > who don't care about them. > > I don't like leaving the tree broken too long so I prefer to f

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 12/27/2009 04:40 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: It's not about maintainers, but people sending patches. Maintainers can't review all the patches in small details. People writing patches, should think about the impact it can have on linux-user or non-i386 system target, Better documentation is

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Anthony Liguori
There are ~35 patches committed each working day. That's a lot of unnecessary traffic to qemu-devel IMHO. It's only unnecessary if you don't consider that people might review patches. When I see "thanks applied" I know e.g. it's not waiting for review. Or if it is wrong I will comment with prio

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 04:38:14PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 12/27/2009 05:37 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >> I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that >> are committed to the shared tree. >> 1. A lot of patches are committed without being posted >> to the list first,

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:23:26PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:50:23PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 09:34:53PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:37:32PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > I'd like to dis

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 12/27/2009 05:37 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that are committed to the shared tree. 1. A lot of patches are committed without being posted to the list first, thus they go in without review. Why is this good? Can this be addressed?

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:50:23PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 09:34:53PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:37:32PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that > > > are committed to the sh

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 09:34:53PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:37:32PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that > > are committed to the shared tree. > > 1. A lot of patches are committed without being posted > >

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:37:32PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that > are committed to the shared tree. > 1. A lot of patches are committed without being posted >to the list first, thus they go in without review. >Why is this good?

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Andreas Färber
Am 27.12.2009 um 17:12 schrieb Blue Swirl: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: 2. When a change is committed to the tree, often no notification is sent to the author. Why is it a good idea to ask everyone to subscribe to qemu commits list as well? Can 'applied

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 07:48:47PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 05:45:10PM +, Blue Swirl wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 04:12:37PM +, Blue Swirl wrote: > > >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 05:45:10PM +, Blue Swirl wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 04:12:37PM +, Blue Swirl wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin > >> wrote: > >> > I'd like to discuss two questions

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Blue Swirl
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 04:12:37PM +, Blue Swirl wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >> > I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that >> > are committed to the shared tree. >> > 1. A l

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 04:12:37PM +, Blue Swirl wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that > > are committed to the shared tree. > > 1. A lot of patches are committed without being posted > >   to the list

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Blue Swirl
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that > are committed to the shared tree. > 1. A lot of patches are committed without being posted >   to the list first, thus they go in without review. >   Why is this good? Can this

[Qemu-devel] Re: commit rules for common git tree

2009-12-27 Thread Anthony Liguori
On Dec 27, 2009 5:40 AM, "Michael S. Tsirkin" wrote: I'd like to discuss two questions related to changes that are committed to the shared tree. 1. A lot of patches are committed without being posted to the list first, thus they go in without review. Why is this good? Can this be addressed? 2