Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-09-03 Thread Programmingkid
On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 10:34:04AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> It has been over a week since we first started talking about this >> subject. A lot of opinions have been flying around. Does this issue >> look like it is starting to be fixed? I ju

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-09-03 Thread Programmingkid
It has been over a week since we first started talking about this subject. A lot of opinions have been flying around. Does this issue look like it is starting to be fixed? I just have to say I don't think it has been solved yet. Having device_del use a QOM path does not sound very good. It is ac

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-09-03 Thread Jeff Cody
On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 10:34:04AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > It has been over a week since we first started talking about this > subject. A lot of opinions have been flying around. Does this issue > look like it is starting to be fixed? I just have to say I don't > think it has been solved yet

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-09-01 Thread Programmingkid
On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote: > Am 01.09.2015 um 16:18 hat Programmingkid geschrieben: >> >> On Sep 1, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote: >> >>> Am 27.08.2015 um 14:32 hat Jeff Cody geschrieben: I'm not married to the ID generation scheme I proposed. What I a

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-09-01 Thread Kevin Wolf
Am 01.09.2015 um 16:18 hat Programmingkid geschrieben: > > On Sep 1, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote: > > > Am 27.08.2015 um 14:32 hat Jeff Cody geschrieben: > >> I'm not married to the ID generation scheme I proposed. > >> > >> What I am trying to do, however, is have a technical discussio

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-09-01 Thread Programmingkid
On Sep 1, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote: > Am 27.08.2015 um 14:32 hat Jeff Cody geschrieben: >> I'm not married to the ID generation scheme I proposed. >> >> What I am trying to do, however, is have a technical discussion on >> generating an ID in a well-formed manner. And hopefully, in

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-09-01 Thread Kevin Wolf
Am 27.08.2015 um 14:32 hat Jeff Cody geschrieben: > I'm not married to the ID generation scheme I proposed. > > What I am trying to do, however, is have a technical discussion on > generating an ID in a well-formed manner. And hopefully, in a way > that is useful to all interested subsystems, i

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Jeff Cody
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 01:27:40PM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/27/2015 01:08 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 05:02:17PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >> > >> Just to be clear - libvirt will *never* use an auto-generated device > >> IDs feature. It is way more complicated

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:08:25PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:58:22AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:40 AM,

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/27/2015 01:08 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 05:02:17PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >> Just to be clear - libvirt will *never* use an auto-generated device >> IDs feature. It is way more complicated to let QEMU assign device IDs >> and then auto-detect them from some '

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/27/2015 12:59 PM, John Snow wrote: >> Dan made the point that if a name is unpredictable, then we have >> to query to learn what name was assigned. But if you add two or >> more devices before querying, then you don't know which device has >> which name. Predictable might actually be bette

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Jeff Cody
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 05:02:17PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > Just to be clear - libvirt will *never* use an auto-generated device > IDs feature. It is way more complicated to let QEMU assign device IDs > and then auto-detect them from some 'info device-list' output, than > to just speci

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread John Snow
On 08/27/2015 09:00 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/27/2015 06:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> (Added Eric back in to the CC list. Looks like he got dropped >> somewhere along the way) > > No thanks to mailman's inept behavior that thinks that it is okay > to rewrite cc's to drop anyone that doesn't

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:08:25PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:58:22AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:40 AM,

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/27/2015 10:06 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >> I applied your patch, but saw this error message when I tried to 'make' QEMU: >> >> GEN qmp-commands.txt >> line 344: syntax error: expected EQMP, found SQMP >> make: *** [qmp-commands.txt] Error 1 >> make: *** Deleting file `qmp-commands

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:08:25PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:58:22AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:20:20A

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:58:22AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:20:20AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:34:05A

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:58:22AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:20:20AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Daniel P

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:03:38PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:22:58AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:22:58AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:13:25AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> What is wrong with having

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:20:20AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:34:05AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Eric Bla

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:22:58AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:13:25AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >>> > What is wrong with having a predictable ID? > > >>> > >>> As Daniel and Eric have

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Jeff Cody
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:20:20AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:34:05AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > >> > >>> On 08/27/2015 07:56 AM, Programm

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 1:39 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote: > Programmingkid writes: > >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:08 PM, John Snow wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 08/26/2015 05:48 PM, Programmingkid wrote: On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Peter Maydell wrote: > On 26 August 2015 at 18:16,

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:13:25AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >>> What is wrong with having a predictable ID? >>> >>> As Daniel and Eric have noted, it could be nice to have a predictable >>> ID. My concern with a predictab

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:34:05AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Eric Blake wrote: >> >>> On 08/27/2015 07:56 AM, Programmingkid wrote: >>> > If we did have auto-generated names, we would need to c

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:13:25AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > > >> What is wrong with having a predictable ID? > >> > > > > As Daniel and Eric have noted, it could be nice to have a predictable > > ID. My concern with a predictable ID is that it creates, across > > multiple sub-systems, a

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:33:42AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> > > [snip] > >>> >>> I'm not married to the ID generation scheme I proposed. >>> >>> What I am trying to do, however, is

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:56:47AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:33:42AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:32 AM, J

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:34:05AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > > > On 08/27/2015 07:56 AM, Programmingkid wrote: > > > >>> If we did have auto-generated names, we would need to come up with a > >>> scheme that is not going to clash with any

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/27/2015 07:56 AM, Programmingkid wrote: > >>> If we did have auto-generated names, we would need to come up with a >>> scheme that is not going to clash with any existing naming that users >>> of QEMU may already be doing, otherwise we risk

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/27/2015 07:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:39:10AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >>> Better still might be fixing things to where we add a global command line option that outright fails any attempt to

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Jeff Cody
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 08:01:12AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/27/2015 07:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:39:10AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> > >>> Better still might be fixing things to where we add a global command > >>> line option that outright fails a

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:56:47AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:33:42AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On the generation scheme pro

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Jeff Cody
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:33:42AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > [snip] > > > > I'm not married to the ID generation scheme I proposed. > > > > What I am trying to do, however, is have a technical discussion on > > generating an ID in a well

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:01:41PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >>> If a user is talking to the QEMU monitor directly there are plenty of ways >>> to go wrong, of which forgetting to provide an ID is a really minor one. >> >> What other pr

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/27/2015 07:56 AM, Programmingkid wrote: >> If we did have auto-generated names, we would need to come up with a >> scheme that is not going to clash with any existing naming that users >> of QEMU may already be doing, otherwise we risk causing a regression. >> Something as simple as what you

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/27/2015 07:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:39:10AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >>> Better still might be fixing things to where we add a global command >>> line option that outright fails any attempt to create an unnamed object. >>> The option would be off by

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:39:10AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >>> Better still might be fixing things to where we add a global command >>> line option that outright fails any attempt to create an unnamed object. >>> The option would b

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:33:42AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> >>> >>> On the generation scheme proposed above: >>> >>> I understand that something you desire is an ID that is easi

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:01:41PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > If a user is talking to the QEMU monitor directly there are plenty of ways > > to go wrong, of which forgetting to provide an ID is a really minor one. > > What other problems did you have in mind? > > > That's why it is generall

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:39:10AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > > Better still might be fixing things to where we add a global command > > line option that outright fails any attempt to create an unnamed object. > > The option would be off by default for back-compat. But management > > apps l

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 09:33:42AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > > > > > On the generation scheme proposed above: > > > > I understand that something you desire is an ID that is easier to > > type. > > > > If we wanted to make it shorter, perh

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/27/2015 06:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> (Added Eric back in to the CC list. Looks like he got dropped >> somewhere along the way) > > No thanks to mailman's inept behavior that thinks that it is okay to > rewrite cc's to drop anyone that does

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > (Added Eric back in to the CC list. Looks like he got dropped > somewhere along the way) > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:22:08PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:17

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Eric Blake
On 08/27/2015 06:32 AM, Jeff Cody wrote: > (Added Eric back in to the CC list. Looks like he got dropped > somewhere along the way) No thanks to mailman's inept behavior that thinks that it is okay to rewrite cc's to drop anyone that doesn't want duplicate email. But don't worry about it; I have

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-27 Thread Jeff Cody
(Added Eric back in to the CC list. Looks like he got dropped somewhere along the way) On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:22:08PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:17:17PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 26, 20

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Markus Armbruster
Programmingkid writes: > On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:08 PM, John Snow wrote: > >> >> >> On 08/26/2015 05:48 PM, Programmingkid wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Peter Maydell wrote: >>> On 26 August 2015 at 18:16, Programmingkid wrote: > That is assuming they have the time

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:08 PM, John Snow wrote: > > > On 08/26/2015 05:48 PM, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Peter Maydell wrote: >> >>> On 26 August 2015 at 18:16, Programmingkid >>> wrote: That is assuming they have the time and/or the interest in solving this

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:04 PM, John Snow wrote: > > > On 08/26/2015 06:01 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:17:17PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:17:17PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: >>>

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread John Snow
On 08/26/2015 05:48 PM, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Peter Maydell wrote: > >> On 26 August 2015 at 18:16, Programmingkid wrote: >>> That is assuming they have the time and/or the interest in solving this >>> problem. I >>> suppose giving them some time to respond wo

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread John Snow
On 08/26/2015 06:01 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:17:17PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Jeff Cody
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:17:17PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:31:57PM +0200, Ma

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:45 PM, Peter Maydell wrote: > On 26 August 2015 at 18:16, Programmingkid wrote: >> That is assuming they have the time and/or the interest in solving this >> problem. I >> suppose giving them some time to respond would be reasonable. I'm thinking if >> no consensus has bee

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Peter Maydell
On 26 August 2015 at 18:16, Programmingkid wrote: > That is assuming they have the time and/or the interest in solving this > problem. I > suppose giving them some time to respond would be reasonable. I'm thinking if > no consensus has been reached in one weeks time (starting today), we turn to >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:31:57PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: Did you drop cc's intentionally? I put them right b

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Jeff Cody
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:31:57PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: > >> Did you drop cc's intentionally? I put them right back. > >> > >> Programmingkid writes: > >> > >>> O

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:46:43PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: >> >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 02:38:17PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: You're proposing to revise a qdev

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-26 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:46:43PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote: > > On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 02:38:17PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: > >> You're proposing to revise a qdev design decision, namely the purpose of > >> IDs. This has bee

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 02:38:17PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: >> You're proposing to revise a qdev design decision, namely the purpose of >> IDs. This has been discussed before, and IDs remained unchanged. >> Perhaps it's time to revi

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Jeff Cody wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:31:57PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: >> Did you drop cc's intentionally? I put them right back. >> >> Programmingkid writes: >> >>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote: >>> You're proposing to

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-26 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 02:38:17PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: > You're proposing to revise a qdev design decision, namely the purpose of > IDs. This has been discussed before, and IDs remained unchanged. > Perhaps it's time to revisit this issue. Cc'ing a few more people. > > Relevant prior

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Jeff Cody
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:31:57PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: > Did you drop cc's intentionally? I put them right back. > > Programmingkid writes: > > > On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote: > > > >> You're proposing to revise a qdev design decision, namely the purpose of >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote: > Did you drop cc's intentionally? I put them right back. Sorry I didn't think they would care so I removed them. Will keep them in the loop for now on. > > Programmingkid writes: > >> On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Markus Armbruster wro

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?

2015-08-26 Thread Markus Armbruster
Did you drop cc's intentionally? I put them right back. Programmingkid writes: > On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote: > >> You're proposing to revise a qdev design decision, namely the purpose of >> IDs. This has been discussed before, and IDs remained unchanged. >> Perhaps it

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-26 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote: > You're proposing to revise a qdev design decision, namely the purpose of > IDs. This has been discussed before, and IDs remained unchanged. > Perhaps it's time to revisit this issue. Cc'ing a few more people. > > Relevant prior threads: >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-25 Thread Programmingkid
On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote: > You're proposing to revise a qdev design decision, namely the purpose of > IDs. This has been discussed before, and IDs remained unchanged. > Perhaps it's time to revisit this issue. Cc'ing a few more people. > > Relevant prior threads: >

[Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation)

2015-08-25 Thread Markus Armbruster
You're proposing to revise a qdev design decision, namely the purpose of IDs. This has been discussed before, and IDs remained unchanged. Perhaps it's time to revisit this issue. Cc'ing a few more people. Relevant prior threads: * [PATCH] qdev: Reject duplicate and anti-social device IDs http: