Fwd: Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-13 Thread Felipe Contreras
Apparently I write in a spamy way. There's no contact for these kinds of issues, so I'm sending this here, sorry. -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Feb 13, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: RE: Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-13 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Feb 13, 2008 10:22 AM, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 12 February 2008 05:57:18 Ian Jackson wrote: > > hg is much better. OTOH it does have one severe problem: it expects > > you to check in before merging, which is the opposite of what cvs > > users expect. A cvs refugee,

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-13 Thread Rob Landley
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 05:57:18 Ian Jackson wrote: > hg is much better. OTOH it does have one severe problem: it expects > you to check in before merging, which is the opposite of what cvs > users expect. A cvs refugee, or anyone working on a project whose > leaders don't like merge changese

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Johannes Schindelin writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?"): > If you mean the one at repo.or.cz and the one at kernel.dk, no. They > contain exactly the same history. You're right. I hadn't checked. My own mirror generated with git-cvsimport is

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-12 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > Johannes Schindelin writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled > do?"): > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > At the very least we need one drcs branch containing only changes > > &

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Johannes Schindelin writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?"): > On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > > At the very least we need one drcs branch containing only changes from > > the upstream cvs. It has to be incrementally updated, automaticall

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-12 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > * In the meantime, or if upstream decide not to, what is the best way >for non-upstream contributors to collaborate with each other ? > > [...] > > What should those of us who want to collaborate using a drcs (so that we > can share our work-in

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-12 Thread Andreas Färber
Hi, Am 12.02.2008 um 12:15 schrieb Johannes Schindelin: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Paul Brook wrote: Any news on the possible cvs->svn migration? To be perfectly honest, IMO there is little point moving an existing project from CVS to SVN. I disagree. CVS has several fairly fundamental flaws (

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-12 Thread Ian Jackson
It seems to me that there are two questions here: * Should the CVS for the upstream repository be replaced with something else ? * In the meantime, or if upstream decide not to, what is the best way for non-upstream contributors to collaborate with each other ? The answer to the first qu

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-12 Thread Julian Seward
> : > > Any news on the possible cvs->svn migration? > : > > : > To be perfectly honest, IMO there is little point moving an existing > : > project from CVS to SVN. > : > : I disagree. CVS has several fairly fundamental flaws (no global revision > : IDs, unable to move files, and more subtle prob

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-12 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, I did not really want to continue this discussion, but then, I really cannot let certain statements slip by. *sigh* On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Paul Brook wrote: > > > Any news on the possible cvs->svn migration? > > > > To be perfectly honest, IMO there is little point moving an existing > > pro

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul Brook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > > Any news on the possible cvs->svn migration? : > : > To be perfectly honest, IMO there is little point moving an existing : > project from CVS to SVN. : : I disagree. CVS has several fairly fundamental flaws

Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Rob Landley
On Monday 11 February 2008 15:28:17 Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Rob Landley wrote: > > I've been using git://git.kernel.dk/data/git/qemu.git although I > > personally prefer mercurial. (It's easier to learn and to use, you get > > the web viewer for free, etc.) > > I

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Paul Brook
> > Any news on the possible cvs->svn migration? > > To be perfectly honest, IMO there is little point moving an existing > project from CVS to SVN. I disagree. CVS has several fairly fundamental flaws (no global revision IDs, unable to move files, and more subtle problems with branches/tags). S

Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Rob Landley wrote: > I've been using git://git.kernel.dk/data/git/qemu.git although I > personally prefer mercurial. (It's easier to learn and to use, you get > the web viewer for free, etc.) I really grow tired of people perpetuating how "easy" Mercurial is, without

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Feb 11, 2008 10:38 PM, Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > > The advantage of using SVN is that most drcs play along with it quite > > decently. Something that doesn't happen with CVS. > > So you're saying in order to use a DV

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Rob Landley
On Monday 11 February 2008 14:38:42 Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > The advantage of using SVN is that most drcs play along with it quite > > decently. Something that doesn't happen with CVS. > > So you're saying in order to use a DVCS you would

Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Rob Landley
On Saturday 09 February 2008 10:49:49 Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Right now I can't use qemu because a bug introduced in the last months > > and with git-bisect I probably would be able to fix it myself. > > Just clone git://repo.or.cz/qemu.g

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Felipe Contreras wrote: > The advantage of using SVN is that most drcs play along with it quite > decently. Something that doesn't happen with CVS. So you're saying in order to use a DVCS you would need to switch to a CVCS? Puzzled, Dscho

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Feb 11, 2008 5:52 PM, Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob Landley writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?"): > > Any news on the possible cvs->svn migration? > > To be perfectly honest, IMO there is little point moving an existing &

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Johannes Schindelin writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?"): > Now, that is funny. You quote me, and you quote Rob, but culled both of > us from the Cc list. How strange. I definitely didn't mean to do that, sorry. ...tests... This is the fault of

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > Johannes Schindelin writes ("Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does > code_copy_enabled do?"): > > Just clone git://repo.or.cz/qemu.git, then. > > Rob Landley writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_co

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Rob Landley writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?"): > Any news on the possible cvs->svn migration? To be perfectly honest, IMO there is little point moving an existing project from CVS to SVN. SVN has better support for renames, and a few other advantages,

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Johannes Schindelin writes ("Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?"): > Just clone git://repo.or.cz/qemu.git, then. Rob Landley writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?"): > ... the git mirror I follow (git://git.k

Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-09 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Right now I can't use qemu because a bug introduced in the last months > and with git-bisect I probably would be able to fix it myself. Just clone git://repo.or.cz/qemu.git, then. Hth, Dscho

Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-09 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Feb 9, 2008 2:45 PM, Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > On 2/8/08, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 07 February 2008 21:52:33 Paul Brook wrote: > > > > On Friday 08 February 2008, Rob Landley wrote: > > >

Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-09 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Blue Swirl wrote: > On 2/9/08, Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And I'm not a fan of _forcing_ people to switch to another SCM. You > > can use git (and even cvsimport yourself, should the public git > > mirrors lag), and even svn, as pbrook showed,

Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-09 Thread Blue Swirl
On 2/9/08, Johannes Schindelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Blue Swirl wrote: > > > On 2/8/08, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 07 February 2008 21:52:33 Paul Brook wrote: > > > > On Friday 08 February 2008, Rob Landley wrote: > > > > > Grepping t

Re: Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-09 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Blue Swirl wrote: > On 2/8/08, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 07 February 2008 21:52:33 Paul Brook wrote: > > > On Friday 08 February 2008, Rob Landley wrote: > > > > Grepping through the source code, I can find 3 places where this global > > > > va

Git/SVN/CVS? was Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-08 Thread Blue Swirl
On 2/8/08, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 07 February 2008 21:52:33 Paul Brook wrote: > > On Friday 08 February 2008, Rob Landley wrote: > > > Grepping through the source code, I can find 3 places where this global > > > variable is set (it's initialized to a default value of

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-08 Thread Rob Landley
On Thursday 07 February 2008 21:52:33 Paul Brook wrote: > On Friday 08 February 2008, Rob Landley wrote: > > Grepping through the source code, I can find 3 places where this global > > variable is set (it's initialized to a default value of 1, there's > > a "no-code-copy" command line option that s

Re: [Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-07 Thread Paul Brook
On Friday 08 February 2008, Rob Landley wrote: > Grepping through the source code, I can find 3 places where this global > variable is set (it's initialized to a default value of 1, there's > a "no-code-copy" command line option that sets it to zero, and then it > shows up in the test suite once).

[Qemu-devel] What does code_copy_enabled do?

2008-02-07 Thread Rob Landley
Grepping through the source code, I can find 3 places where this global variable is set (it's initialized to a default value of 1, there's a "no-code-copy" command line option that sets it to zero, and then it shows up in the test suite once). What I can't find is any code ever actually checki