[Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Denis Rouzaud
Hi Paolo, This would probably be quite a different way of dealing with the data source. I suppose the idea would be to fetch all the points at once and store them in a kd-tree. Otherwise, refreshing the canvas would take ages to refresh. The laslib [0,1] (from lastools) is LGPL. But there

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 09:01, Denis Rouzaud ha scritto: This would probably be quite a different way of dealing with the data source. I suppose the idea would be to fetch all the points at once and store them in a kd-tree. Otherwise, refreshing the

Re: [Qgis-developer] Data encryption

2014-01-29 Thread Zoltan Szecsei
On 2014/01/29 09:59, Alex Mandel wrote: On 01/28/2014 10:53 PM, Zoltan Szecsei wrote: Hi List, I have a friend, not in South Africa, who has a need to bundle raster vector data with a map viewer, so that the entire package can be deployed via a DVD. The catch is that usage of the data bundled

Re: [Qgis-developer] Data encryption

2014-01-29 Thread Denis Rouzaud
The best way is to provide your data with a proper disclaimer of use. Trying to add some lock is just useless. Anyone who will really wants to fully get or edit the data will still be able to do it. You will just make your bundle less usable, and loose some time/money at trying to implement

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Jean-Roc Morreale
Le 2014-01-29 09:07, Paolo Cavallini a écrit : Hi all, thanks for following up. Of course we need some smart way to deal with such huge amounts of points (that's why I think we need a brand new provider). libLAS and PDAL seem to overlap, and at least one developer is involved in both: does

Re: [Qgis-developer] Cad-Input for QGIS prototype

2014-01-29 Thread Denis Rouzaud
On 29. 01. 14 05:27, Olivier Dalang wrote: Hi ! Thanks for all the replies !! I updated the plugin which should work on mac/linux now, please give it a try ! Do you think it's too soon to put it in the plugin repo as experimental at this stage ? +1 to publish, it would allow more users to

Re: [Qgis-developer] Cad-Input for QGIS prototype

2014-01-29 Thread Angelos Tzotsos
Hi Olivier, This is excellent work, thank you. +1 on uploading it as experimental. As already stated, I also believe that we would all benefit from a common framework for digitizing/CAD plugins. If we could merge them all into one plugin, it would be awesome, plus this could be merged into

Re: [Qgis-developer] Cad-Input for QGIS prototype

2014-01-29 Thread Zoran Janković
+1 to publish Great work, just what I needed in my everyday routine as a licensed surveyor. QGIS is one more step closer to replacing proprietary CAD application... If it were not for LISP routines, we would hardly be using 5% of CAD features anyway... And here we have Python ;-)...

[Qgis-developer] Labeling toolbar activating signals?

2014-01-29 Thread Régis Haubourg
Hi All, I'm upgrading EasyCustomLableing plugin to 2.x API (late, I know). I'm having troubles activating correctly labeling toolbar buttons. When using StartEditing on active layer, with all labeling parameter correctly set, following buttons don't activate, while others do: - pin/unpin

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Etienne Tourigny
There was some discussion about LAS format and PDAL on the GDAL mailing list a few weeks ago, there is probably some interesting info there. cheers Etienne On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.itwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 11:37, Etienne Tourigny ha scritto: There was some discussion about LAS format and PDAL on the GDAL mailing list a few weeks ago, there is probably some interesting info there. I suppose you mean:

[Qgis-developer] Vienna hotel

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. Apparently single rooms are sold out @kindl. Should we share rooms? All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu Corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
Hi Paolo, about performance reasons recently we spoken about this item in other thread: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layer In order to render so big layers as LAS files are, there are two strategies, discard points on renderer side, or on featureiterator side by distance

Re: [Qgis-developer] Cad-Input for QGIS prototype

2014-01-29 Thread Olivier Dalang
Hi ! Ok the plugin is published in the repo (with a nice icon for the occasion ;) ) ! Champagne ! *@Denis* I wanted to say that if you need a hand on implementing things in the API, I can help. Although I am by far not the most advanced programmer around, I am truly interested by your

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 12:27, A Huarte ha scritto: Hi Paolo, about performance reasons recently we spoken about this item in other thread: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layer In order to render so big layers as LAS files are, there

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
yes, it can be implemented on renderer level (Martin Dobias propose it) or on featureiterator level similar to current simplification classes for line and polygons I think it is pending for a test of performance Best Regards Alvaro De: Paolo Cavallini

Re: [Qgis-developer] Vienna hotel

2014-01-29 Thread Gino Pirelli
+1 I can share but I haven't booked yet On 29 January 2014 11:49, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. Apparently single rooms are sold out @kindl. Should we share rooms? All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Jean-Roc Morreale
Can it performs fast enough to display hundred millions points or billions at once ? Does it leverage a quadtree approach ? Le 2014-01-29 12:55, A Huarte a écrit : yes, it can be implemented on renderer level (Martin Dobias propose it) or on featureiterator level similar to current

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
I think but using a quadtree approach there is a problem, and it is none other than the construction of the quadtree itself for so big data. IMHO I would use a specific provider (with a specific featureiterator) reading sequentially the LAS file and discarding points before fetch it to renderer

Re: [Qgis-developer] Consistency in adding layers (especially OGC)

2014-01-29 Thread Jonathan Moules
Hi Alvaro, That seems really interesting, hopefully something similar thing can be created for QGIS. Your video shows how slick it can be. I've created a fairly bland issue for this - http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451 What's next? Cheers, Jonathan On 28 January 2014 15:19, A Huarte

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Martin Dobias
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:55 PM, A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es wrote: yes, it can be implemented on renderer level (Martin Dobias propose it) or on featureiterator level similar to current simplification classes for line and polygons Personally I do not think we can treat lidar data like with

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
I agree,  http://www.fugroviewer.com/ can be our target ? Alvaro De: Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com Para: A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es CC: cavall...@faunalia.it cavall...@faunalia.it; Etienne Tourigny etourigny@gmail.com; qgis-developer

Re: [Qgis-developer] Consistency in adding layers (especially OGC)

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
Time to develop it  :-) De: Jonathan Moules jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk Para: A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es CC: Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com; qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Enviado: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Jean-Roc Morreale
Most lidar files are not spatially ordered so with a sequential read you will end up reading the whole file, it's like accessing a untiled unpyramided bigtiff : painful. Le 2014-01-29 13:52, A Huarte a écrit : I think but using a quadtree approach there is a problem, and it is none other than

Re: [Qgis-developer] Consistency in adding layers (especially OGC)

2014-01-29 Thread Stott James
I believe this is how uDig does it too. Maybe good to have a look at uDig for inspiration as well? http://www.ogcnetwork.net/img/ogcn/wfs_tut_02-adddatawfs.png Fra: qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] På vegne av A Huarte Sendt: 29. januar

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Randal Hale
Would LASTools add anything to the conversation? I do believe they re-order the file (but I've not used it). - Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com

[Qgis-developer] $scale not evaluated

2014-01-29 Thread Régis Haubourg
Hi again, the very usefull $scale variable seems to be not evaluated everywhere in QGIS interface. - in Dufour 2.0, only label expression seem to get the value - in master, label expression and data defined symbol properties have it, but ruled based renderer gets nothing . Anyone has this

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
You are right, but only if it is possible to generate the quadtree on the fly  (millions of points), or preprocess it to disk. this doc uses a mixed strategy (I used it and it works fine)... http://www.cs.unc.edu/~isenburg/papers/ilss-scdt-06.pdf a first pass read the file to build a special

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
But then we must preprocess the data before load it in QGIS De: Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com Para: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Enviado: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 14:49 Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS Would LASTools add

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi, I contacted Howard Butler, one of the developers of PDAL, about possibly providing some input on questions we have in this thread, and believe he is now subscribed to the list. Howard, any ideas on a strategy for using PDAL in QGIS, e.g. via proposed GDAL support, as a separate data

[Qgis-developer] CADInput Plugin making QGIS to hang?

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. On close, I get a crash: == Warning: QMainWindow::saveState(): 'objectName' not set for QDockWidget 0x5986260 'Improved Polygon Capturing; Warning: QMainWindow::saveState(): 'objectName' not set for QDockWidget 0x776b780 '; IntersecIt ::

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 19:04, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: I contacted Howard Butler, one of the developers of PDAL, about possibly providing some input on questions we have in this thread, and believe he is now subscribed to the list. Howard, any

Re: [Qgis-developer] Data encryption

2014-01-29 Thread Alex Mandel
I think authorities have tried to do this in the past with poor quality images and pdfs where all the layers are sandwiched together and not meant to be disassembled. So that the only way to extract the data beyond viewing is hand digitizing and recoding of the attributes. I agree with Denis

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi, Since LIDAR data 1. has a special data structure 2. is huge and 3. needs index, using a database with QGIS as client seems to me a natural architectural decision. As you may know, PostgreSQL has a pointcloud extension made by the father of PostGIS, Paul. See e.g. my wiki notes and

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread isenburg
Hello, Lidar data in LAS format are increasingly widespread. Leaving aside all 3D frenzy, we would be interested in simply displaying them in QGIS, with their useful attributes (classification and intensity), either with a native driver or through an available library. I am *very*

Re: [Qgis-developer] Data encryption

2014-01-29 Thread Zoltan Szecsei
Yep - I agree that it is a fruitless venture - quite frankly, even the license to use methodology gives one no real peace of mind. When this request popped into my mailbox, I figured it was worth a shot putting it out there, as I had not given this any thought for a number of years now.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Geodrinx
Howard, If anyone with experience in those environments is interested in chipping in, I'd be happy to help guide the effort. yes, I am interested :) I worked for years in LiDAR data survey and processing, and I writed a program, named LaserDrink :) that displays in realtime TerraSolid

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Geodrinx
The OSGeo Code Sprint in Vienna would seem like the perfect gathering to get a skeleton functionality in place as several names in this thread are listed to show up there. I think also it need to be: an Hack-LiDAR Vienna :) +1 ___ Qgis-developer

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 30/01/2014 05:09, isenburg ha scritto: I am *very* interested in supporting this in any way I can. Hope to see many of you in Vienna. Glad to see my request has spurred so much interest. Let's keep on this discussion here, and see you in

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 21:48, Howard Butler ha scritto: I think the first question to answer for a QGIS point cloud capability is to define what it will do. Is it a renderer/viewer? Product processing pipeline? Everything? I think it is important to keep