Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Geodrinx
Hello Nathan, Personally I think we should still do 2.8, LTR it, and then we can do 3.0 for the next release. Breaking the API again without a LTR in place makes me nervous as the 2.0 API really wasn't that long ago. +1000 for LTS I am with you: please, stop to change the api. If

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-08 Thread Geodrinx
In my case, on Win 7 64 bit, QGIS 2.6 crashes with minidump each time I quit, also doing nothing (that is, no project, no file loaded) It is normal ? LTS please. Regards Roberto Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 07/nov/2014, alle ore 14:53, Giovanni Manghi giovanni.man...@faunalia.pt ha

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi QGIS 3 should come with python 3. I don't think that python 3 can be a smooth transition so this would require us to make QGIS 4 and break plugins once again. Qt5 support does not require QGIS 3. Geometry and Composer(Layout) may need QGIS 3. But then we can as well just introduce python 3

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi Roberto, Can you open a bug report for this. Please try to start QGIS with --noplugins and see if that makes a change for you. Regards Matthias On 08.11.2014 09:19, Geodrinx wrote: It is not vague: my QGIS 2.6 on Win 7 64 bit crashes ever when exit with a minidump. I have no plugin

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 08/11/2014 09:42, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto: QGIS 3 should come with python 3. I don't think that python 3 can be a smooth transition so this would require us to make QGIS 4 and break plugins once again. Qt5 support does not require QGIS 3.

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paolo, Please don't list Qt5 in breakages. Thank you Matthias On 08.11.2014 09:46, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 08/11/2014 09:42, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto: QGIS 3 should come with python 3. I don't think that python 3 can be a smooth

[Qgis-developer] Save selection as

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi, I realized that the save selection as was moved to save as. I appreciate that because it reduces clutter in the layer tree context menu. I wonder if this should be checked by default whenever there is something selected on the layer? Just like the field calculator checks only update selected

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 08/11/2014 8:15 pm, Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paolo, Please don't list Qt5 in breakages. Hi Matthias, I'm a little confused - I was under the impression that some web related classes had been removed from qt5 (hence the

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Also PyQt4 imports won't work anymore so that would be a break right? On Sat, Nov 8, 2014, 7:52 PM Nyall Dawson nyall.daw...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/11/2014 8:15 pm, Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paolo, Please don't

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi, The confusion comes from that there are two different things: * Qt5 compatibility * Qt5 binaries The first one is a thing about the QGIS source code (qt5 branch). The second one is about compiling/packaging. The first step does not break anything. And allows to deprecate certain features

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 08/11/2014 9:05 pm, Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch wrote: * Introducing Qt5 support in the QGIS source code does not break anything. * Your distro actually shipping QGIS {2,3} compiled against Qt5 may break stuff. Makes sense now, thanks. However, by Debian removing Qt4, aren't

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
On 08.11.2014 11:22, Nyall Dawson wrote: On 08/11/2014 9:05 pm, Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch mailto:matthias.k...@gmx.ch wrote: * Introducing Qt5 support in the QGIS source code does not break anything. * Your distro actually shipping QGIS {2,3} compiled against Qt5 may

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 08/11/2014 10:15, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto: Please don't list Qt5 in breakages. sorry, maybe I misunderstood, but thought the plugins have to be somewhat fixed. All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu QGIS PostGIS courses:

Re: [Qgis-developer] Save selection as

2014-11-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 08/11/2014 10:18, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto: Hi, I realized that the save selection as was moved to save as. I appreciate that because it reduces clutter in the layer tree context menu. I wonder if this should be checked by default whenever

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Luca Manganelli
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I think we should still do 2.8, LTR it, and then we can do 3.0 for the next release. I agree with a LTS version (what's LTR??? :-) ). It should be important that the 2.X will not be abbandoned like as the last

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Anita Graser
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I think we should still do 2.8, LTR it, and then we can do 3.0 for the next release. Breaking the API again without a LTR in place makes me nervous as the 2.0 API really wasn't that long ago. +1 and even

Re: [Qgis-developer] Save selection as

2014-11-08 Thread Anita Graser
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: Il 08/11/2014 10:18, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto: Hi, I realized that the save selection as was moved to save as. I appreciate that because it reduces clutter in the layer tree context menu. I wonder if this should be

Re: [Qgis-developer] Save selection as

2014-11-08 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Anita, On Sat, 08. Nov 2014 at 12:32:52 +0100, Anita Graser wrote: On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: Il 08/11/2014 10:18, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto: I think this could result in unexpected outcome for the users. All the best. Seems like a

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt 5

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, my message was a bit short. Please read my response to Nyall for a more complete discussion. I just want to make sure that there are no rumours that PR1676 [1] would break anything. Once that's in place, we can start to check if/where are

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Yes, 2.8 LTR is the least we need to do for users that spent time to update to 2.0. Matthias On 08.11.2014 12:27, Anita Graser wrote: On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I think we should still do 2.8, LTR it, and then we can do 3.0 for the

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-08 Thread Geo DrinX
Hi Matthias, 2014-11-08 9:44 GMT+01:00 Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch: Hi Roberto, Can you open a bug report for this. I will do soon. Please try to start QGIS with --noplugins and see if that makes a change for you. I just done your test. At this link you find the capture

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-08 Thread Geo DrinX
http://hub.qgis.org/issues/11600 Roberto 2014-11-08 14:04 GMT+01:00 Geo DrinX geodr...@gmail.com: Hi Matthias, 2014-11-08 9:44 GMT+01:00 Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch: Hi Roberto, Can you open a bug report for this. I will do soon. Please try to start QGIS with --noplugins

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-08 Thread Giovanni Manghi
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Geodrinx geodr...@gmail.com wrote: In my case, on Win 7 64 bit, QGIS 2.6 crashes with minidump each time I quit, also doing nothing (that is, no project, no file loaded) It is normal ? LTS please. try (backup) and delete the .qgis2 folder, I have seen

[Qgis-developer] Python tests and C++ tests for the same functionality

2014-11-08 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi, While working on the test suite and trying to get all tests to pass I realized that there are a lot of tests that exist in two versions: C++ and python (e.g. composerhtml, atlas composition). The problem with that is, that they work on the same set of reference images and either one or the

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread G. Allegri
+1 for LTS (2.6 or 2.8?). A new API break risks to make users (and plugin developers) quite nervous! E.G. the coming QEP from Nyall (about Composer refactoring) breaks Composer gui API, while it should mantain core. This could be included in an LTS release, while in QGIS 3.0 back compatibility

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-08 Thread Geo DrinX
Giovanni, try (backup) and delete the .qgis2 folder, I have seen this a lot on qgis installations where qgis was previously installed, and purging .qgis2 usually works. Great !!! :) Now it works.I will test inserting plugins one by one. I updated the issue list Thank you :)

Re: [Qgis-developer] Python tests and C++ tests for the same functionality

2014-11-08 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Vote for 2. Python is a lot easier to test in, and no building step. On Sat, Nov 8, 2014, 11:30 PM Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi, While working on the test suite and trying to get all tests to pass I realized that there are a lot of tests that exist in two versions: C++ and

Re: [Qgis-developer] Python tests and C++ tests for the same functionality

2014-11-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 02:30:23PM +0100, Matthias Kuhn wrote: While working on the test suite and trying to get all tests to pass I realized that there are a lot of tests that exist in two versions: C++ and python (e.g. composerhtml, atlas composition). The problem with that is, that they

Re: [Qgis-developer] Python tests and C++ tests for the same functionality

2014-11-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 03:00:18PM +, Nathan Woodrow wrote: Vote for 2. Python is a lot easier to test in, and no building step. Can python tests effectively be used to find memory errors/leaks ? --strk; ___ Qgis-developer mailing list

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-08 Thread Giovanni Manghi
try (backup) and delete the .qgis2 folder, I have seen this a lot on qgis installations where qgis was previously installed, and purging .qgis2 usually works. Great !!! :) Now it works.I will test inserting plugins one by one. I have not investigated deeply, but in this cases it

Re: [Qgis-developer] Field Calculator permanence

2014-11-08 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Zoltan, There are many other file formats besides shapes, including many databases. So people should stop thinking that the universe only circles around shapefiles. With these other file formats it is not very common to ship other files along with the main file. Why do you think that

Re: [Qgis-developer] issues in QGIS 2.6 when saving/working with projects saved in previous QGIS releases

2014-11-08 Thread Roy
Il 08/11/2014 17.26, Giovanni Manghi ha scritto: try (backup) and delete the .qgis2 folder, I have seen this a lot on qgis installations where qgis was previously installed, and purging .qgis2 usually works. Great !!! :) Now it works.I will test inserting plugins one by one. I have

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS 3.0?

2014-11-08 Thread Roy
**If I may** +1 for LTS or LTR Il 08/11/2014 15.09, G. Allegri ha scritto: +1 for LTS (2.6 or 2.8?). A new API break risks to make users (and plugin developers) quite nervous! IMHO as an user myself i think that a working tool is more valuable than a new tool, E.G. the coming QEP from

Re: [Qgis-developer] Python tests and C++ tests for the same functionality

2014-11-08 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 9 November 2014 00:30, Matthias Kuhn matthias.k...@gmx.ch wrote: (1) We could accept these deviations with anomalies or multiple reference images. (2) Or we could remove the C++ test in favor of the python test which will test the same functionality/codepath and the python binding in

[Qgis-developer] processing python api change in 2.6 ?

2014-11-08 Thread Vincent TINET
I have this error message while using my scripts (no error in 2.4) on my mac Erreur non interceptée durant l'exécution de l'algorithme Traceback (most recent call last): Traceback (most recent call last): File

[Qgis-developer] processing python api change in 2.6 ?

2014-11-08 Thread Vincent TINET
I have this error message while using my scripts (no error in 2.4) on my mac Erreur non interceptée durant l'exécution de l'algorithme Traceback (most recent call last): Traceback (most recent call last): File